Earlier this week, Alan Alanson posted to the Comments section here. Although we “unblocked” his comments a few months ago, on the understanding that he would remain civil whilst he was here, WordPress in all its infinite wisdom continues to insist that Alan is still blocked. His comments consistently wind up in the “Trash” folder, and must be fished out when we have the time to do so.
And so it happened that the comments he posted on Tuesday night went unnoticed at first; when EC finally did see them and cleared them for posting, however, they disappeared: Lest our readers think we’ve “gone soft” on Alan and his ilk, we’d think it’s important to examine all points of view, and respond in kind when people—even people with whom we have fundamental differences of opinion—ask us honest questions.
So we were glad when Alan reposted his original comment. We’re going to try our best to answer them.
A word of warning: this post is long. You might want to put the kettle on for your choice of hot brown beverage before you begin.
We’ve already discussed some of the threats and violent language which have been directed our way, so while we could say that it’s admirable that Alan claims not to condone violence against anyone, we’d suggest that he might wish to take a closer look both at his own language and that of some of his allies, who most certainly do seem to condone what he claims not to.
And yes, everyone does make mistakes. That’s a given.
We’ve made quite a few bloopers in our time. When we realise our errors, we do our best to both acknowledge them and repair the damage we may have done, but even in that we’re not always perfect.
It seems pretty clear from various posts which Alan has either made himself or allowed others to make on his page that he believes that Jewish people are to blame for many of the world’s ills, and that Hitler might have had a good idea when he attempted to exterminate them. While it’s nice that he would theoretically grant Jewish children amnesty, we think the point stands: anti-Semitism is simply not acceptable under any circumstances. Many of us have family who gave their lives during the last War to stamp out the threat of Hitler and his fascist allies.
And some of us have family who survived, but have never forgotten, the stench of the death camps. Over one million Jewish children, tens of thousands of Romani (Gypsy) children, German children with physical and mental disabilities living in institutions, Polish children, and children residing in the occupied Soviet Union were murdered by the Nazis. So were children born from “mixed marriages”, which threatened the so-called “racial purity” the Nazis believed in.
Alan says he would defend all such children, but Hitler and his armies were not so discerning.
We think it’s admirable that Alan has moved past his violent younger days; it sounds, reading between the lines, as though he “found Jesus”, and far be it from anyone here to sneer at that. Each person’s religion is their own business, and if that’s what it takes to give up violence, then more power to him.
Alan’s next few questions refer specifically to the Hampstead SRA hoax, and while we understand that technically he is not meant to be discussing that topic online, we think this is a good opportunity to set some things straight.
1. I see no proof that…the case in question did not happen… I only see damage limitation & a great deal of time and effort and it could be said, a lot of money in saying this is a Hoax…
We do see a great deal of evidence that the case in question did not happen.
We could probably detail pages and pages of evidence, starting with the fact that both children retracted their statements (the little boy somewhat less eagerly, but then it seems he’d been more thoroughly indoctrinated by Abraham, and was still very much in fear of him). They both stated very clearly to the psychiatrist who examined them that they never wanted to see Abraham again, and when their mother tried to get them to write letters to the judge asking her to let them return home, they both refused and told their visitation supervisor that she had threatened to kill their dog if they didn’t comply.
More recently, you might remember that Ella told Nathan Stolpman, a “friendly” interviewer, that she had made up the part about her ex-husband, her ex-husband’s wife, and her eldest son being in the “cult”. This is curious, because if you look at the videos of the children, you will note that they specifically state that all three were in the cult. This is clear-cut evidence that at least some of what they stated in those videos was not true.
There is also the issue of the tattoos: the children stated clearly in the early videos that the cult was life-long, that members got their tattoos at a very young age, and that their father was the leader of the cult, while Ella’s ex-husband was the cult’s financier. Despite this, Ella managed to live with, and have three children with, two “high-up” cult members, but she never saw any strange tattoos in all that time.
When we began asking Abe and Ella to explain these strange discrepancies they literally went silent. We have heard nothing from them since May/June, when we began asking.
As for damage limitation, and the time and effort that go into this blog, we’d ask you, Alan: what if you were called to your child’s school one day with no prior warning, and informed that two of your child’s schoolmates had stated not only that their father was the leader of a paedophilic cult operating within the school? What if you were told that the two children had named you, your wife, and your child as members of the cult, and social workers and police were sent round to your house to speak with you and your child to determine whether this allegation was true? What if someone decided to put videos of the two children online, and they went viral, leading more than two million people to know your name, your address, your email address, your place of work, the names of your family, friends, and colleagues…and you started getting bricks thrown at your door, graffiti scrawled upon the walls of your house, once-friendly people in your neighbourhood crossing the street to avoid you, your wife, and your child?
What if you knew with every fibre of your being that the allegations simply were not true? Might you start speaking out—loudly and angrily—against something you knew was a lie?
We’ve said before, and it’s 100% true: this blog is not run by members of the community involved, though we hear from many of them and know they support us. Each of us has his or her own reasons for wanting to fight back against the lies; in EC’s case it’s as a result of a family member having been targetted and threatened.
You’re right, running this blog does take up a fair bit of time and energy. It requires next to no money, as we use the free version of WordPress, but those with a business background will grasp the “opportunity cost” involved: time spent working on the blog is time that cannot be spent doing work for pay.
But we should point out that we aren’t the only ones involved in this: you and your friends seem to spend a great deal of time online posting, discussing, and rehashing the Hampstead hoax, not to mention trolling those who disagree with your views. Sauce for the goose, etc.
2. If you ask the Admin and others here the reason for this as they say “huge elaborate hoax”, all they can offer is for custody! So using logic, does this make any sense at all? Bearing in mind the custody circumstances at that time.
No, we don’t believe that the hoax was perpetrated simply so that Ella could ensure she had custody of the children. She already had custody. However, she did state that RD had asked the courts for increased access to the children, and she has said that she was determined to block that.
However, we don’t even buy that as the sole, or even the chief reason for the hoax. We believe that Ella and Sabine, who’d known one another for some time before all this started, decided that they would kill several birds with one stone. Their goal, as we see it, was to launch the videos of the two children online, using contacts brought to them by Belinda, and take the UK conspiracy community by storm. If they “drip fed” the videos one at a time, they could monetise them via various blogs and YouTube channels, and share in the profits. The children’s stories would play upon the beliefs of those in the conspiracy community, who already believed that the world was controlled by “dark forces”, and would see the children’s videos as proof.
We know that Abe and Ella were in contact with at least two of Belinda’s contacts, Brian Gerrish and Bill Maloney, very early in September 2014. Gerrish sent a colleague, Finn Hagan, to talk to the kids and suss out whether the story had “legs”; for whatever reason, he seemed to smell a rat, and Gerrish pulled out of the deal. Maloney seemed to get cold feet too, and it wasn’t until six months later, when the videos had already gone viral, that the two of them decided to get behind the story.
3. Again I ask the Residents, those who have no involvement in what has been alleged…Do you folk believe that rituals of a religious nature involving non-adults happen in the world today? … I ask in all sincerity, in hope of an honest answer.
We can’t speak for everyone who reads this blog, but among those who help put it together, we’d have to say that the consensus is that children around the world are abused, sexually and otherwise, by people belonging to religious groups, we have seen no evidence that ritualised religious abuse (that is, abuse taking place in fulfillment of some religious belief or doctrine) takes place. Certainly, there are various cults where children are abused, and there are incidents such as the Colin Batley case in which a “cult” is created and child sexual abuse perpetrated. However, that isn’t the same as the sort of world-wide Satanic/Illuminati/Whatever cult of paedophilia which some believe to be true.
4. Do you believe what you are told by our ruling class about world events, do you absolutely trust Governments? And are all allegations laid against government re non-adult sex abuse false?
Again, it’s difficult to speak for everyone here, but in general, it seems unwise to believe everything we’re told about world events. As with everything, it’s important to understand who has a vested interest, who’s telling the story, and who has something to gain by it. That doesn’t mean that every episode of mass violence is a “false flag”, but it does mean that citizens have a responsibility to question authority. Do governments as a whole participate in mass child sex abuse? Probably not. It’s hard enough for one person to keep a secret, let alone the hundreds who’d need to be kept quiet if governments were involved in wholesale child abuse. Do individuals within governments abuse children? Probably, to the same extent to which members of the general public do so.
5. Do you believe that there is absolutely “no agenda” for a “totalitarian rule” of a New World Order, Jewish, Luciferian, Jesuit, or otherwise?
As such, no. Banks and big businesses do seem to be on the receiving end of government bailouts and so forth, which give them more power than they ought to have, but it doesn’t sound as though that’s what you’re getting at.
6. Do you think that all us folk who oppose this “non-investigation” event are mindless fools? Or as is said Fruit loops? Are we…allowed an opinion? or will you continue to ridicule and in some cases be real nasty to folk for a differing opinion and our God-given right of Freedom of Speech?
This raises some very interesting questions. Do we think everyone who supports Abe and Ella are mindless fools and/or mentally ill? While it does seem that a great many people who support the hoax have mental health problems and/or drug addiction issues, there are no doubt some very sincere individuals on your side of the fence, who think they are doing the right thing. However, we believe that you have been duped by some very cunning and nasty folk, who set up this hoax for their own reasons. It suits their purposes to have people like you standing up for them, while they sit back and count their money.
Of course you’re allowed an opinion. Everyone is entitled to think what they wish, but your “God-given right to freedom of speech” ends where it interferes with any other person’s right to safety and security. When certain people on Abe and Ella’s side make threats toward people who don’t believe in the hoax, that’s not “freedom of speech”, that’s harassment. When people continue to post pictures and videos of the children involved, or the lists of names and addresses of those whom Ella accused, they are putting others at risk. When they claim that anyone who disagrees with them is a paedophile, they’re endangering lives.
Again: freedom of speech and expression end when they hurt others.
7. Do you think Chris Coleman will stop Sunderland from dropping down another division?
Do you believe in miracles?