Yesterday we touched on the documented links between the Ritual Abuse Information Network and Support (RAINS); their notorious “RAINS list” of random people compiled by co-founder Joan Coleman from the “alter” personalities of her client “Helen G.”; and Operation Yewtree, the police investigation into allegations of sexual abuse by the late Jimmy Savile.
One of our readers kindly pointed out to us that retired police officer Jonathan Wedger, who has recently been trying to “whistle-blow” about alleged SRA via various friends in the online troofer community, seemed quite well acquainted with the RAINS list:
Readers may remember Mr Wedger as “Nathan Numnuts Wedger”, much reviled by Abraham Christie for his role in forwarding an email to police which demonstrated conclusively that the Hampstead SRA hoax had been planned and executed as a publicity gambit.
In the above video with Bill Maloney, the two discuss the RAINS list:
Bill: It’s also the subject itself, Jon. People are frightened of that subject. And something that we, both you and I believe goes on, well we actually know it goes on, is something called S R A. Satanic Ritual Abuse. And it goes on, Jon…
Jon: Well, it’s the elephant in the room. Any act of sexual (fondness?) of a child has got a big Satanic element to it, you know, and it’s one of those things that the more you look into it, the more it crops up, y’know, and there is an organised element to it. Now initially, I didn’t really come across it, but then it did start cropping up. And the more we look into it now, the more it’s [inaudible]. And you’ve got to look at, why are these people clamping down on this? And these are people in positions of privilege and power. One of the things that really sort of changed it was when there was a list that was compiled that we class as the RAINS list.
Bill: Oh! You said the name! [both laugh]
Jon: It’s an acronym. It stands for Ritual Abuse or something like that, I can’t remember. And it was such a comprehensive list, it was so well put together…
Bill: What kind of people were on it, Jon?
Jon: It was a mix. I mean there were names I never heard of…
Bill: I don’t mind so much about the names, I mean what they’ve done, where they come from, were they…there was politicians on there now…
Jon: Politicians, police officers…
Bill: Lords…
Jon: There were lords, there were members of the clergy, there were drug addicts, there were just normal standard people, a lot of the people come from the care system…
An interesting point: both men seemed a bit shocked that Mr Wedger had dared to name the RAINS list: “Oh! You said the name!” They giggle together as though he’d said something very naughty.
In a way, he had.
The RAINS list
On the S.A.F.F. website, you will find a partially redacted version of the RAINS list. As you can see from that list, individuals both living and dead are charged not only with child sexual abuse, but with crimes such as murder.
At least one person on the list who was arrested was comedian Jimmy Tarbuck, who was arrested in 2013 during Operation Yewtree. Within a year the charges against him were dropped, not just because of insufficient evidence, but because evidence showed that he’d been the victim of a false allegation.
However—and this is curious given that the RAINS list has been passed around as if it were a factual document and not just a collection of random people curated by a deluded psychiatrist—none of the instances of alleged “human sacrifice” were ever reported to police, let alone investigated, says S.A.F.F.:
You will note from the document below that stunning allegations of human sacrifice at stately homes attended by ‘the highest in the land’ are accepted and recorded without any attempt to confirm or qualify the details. The allegations are passed on to others who receive this list as though a proven fact.
There is no mention whether Joan Coleman, who appears to have been the author of this list, actually bothered to tell the police about these ‘murders’ and what the results of their enquiries, if any, were. Remember that Joan and Valerie [Sinason] were in close touch with officials in the Met. Did they pass on this information? If not why not? If they did then what did the police investigations result in? Certainly no prosecutions as far as we are aware.
Surely, as a police officer himself, Jonathan Wedger would have been aware that the list constituted unverified, un-investigated nonsense?
Or would he have just looked down at the list, thought to himself, “Sure, seems plausible to me”, and accepted it as fact?
Wedger, Maloney, and Veale
Another curiosity in the Maloney/Wedger video comes at about 6:23, when Bill Maloney brings up former Wiltshire Chief Constable Mike Veale, who consulted “whistle-blowers” such as, erm, Robert Green in his attempt to prove that former PM Edward Heath had been a paedophile.
In October 2017, Richard Bartholomew of Barth’s Notes noted that Mr Green had based his advice to Mr Veale upon information gleaned from the RAINS list:
For the record, I was merely acting as a messenger in relaying details to Chief Constable Veale regarding information passed on to me by the eminent specialist into sexual abuse, Dr Joan Coleman. Five witnesses, all totally independent of each other, had provided, years ago, evidence of being sexually assaulted by Heath and all had referred to the same highly unusual feature about Heath common to all five cases. Hence the credibility of the evidence of witnesses as described by the Chief Constable.
I had absolutely no personal contact with any of these witnesses, nor do I know of their identities. As Dr Coleman is very elderly, I was entrusted with this information over seven years ago. Included also was evidence against Jimmy Savile, well before the Daily Mail or any other mainstream publication had the courage to expose this notorious paedophile.
Here’s how Dr Coleman described Mr Heath in the RAINS list:
Ted Heath: Former Prime Minister. Homosexual but not exclusively, where children are concerned. He has been mentioned by at least 5 SRAS, none of whom know each other. Several have described long finger nails. Am told that he wore false claws added to his nails, with which he clawed his child victims. He died in 2005. The cult held their own funeral on 31st July – 1st August 2005.
A couple of notes about this allegation: it seems likely that the “false claws added to his nails” piece was added in order to explain away the fact that in all known photographs, Mr Heath had short fingernails.
And Mr Heath’s Christian funeral took place in Salisbury cathedral in 25th July 2005 with over 1,600 guests attending. Details, details.
In the video, Bill salutes Mr Veale, and says that a member of his family was one of those who’d made allegations that he’d been abused by “a prime minister of this country….And I think that’s why Mike incorporated my family into [the Operation Conifer report]”.
Mr Wedger responds:
Well, funny you’d say that, because Mike has contacted me, and one of the things he said is, ‘If they’ve been doing this to me as a chief constable, God alone only knows what they’ve been doing to you’….And I said, ‘They’ll come for you, Mike, they’ll come for you like they came for everyone.
So it seems that in addition to Mr Veale’s connection with Robert Green, who fed him false allegations from Joan Coleman’s RAINS list, he has at least a passing acquaintance with Bill Maloney and/or his family member, and has reached out to Jonathan Wedger, both of whom are also avid promoters of the SRA narrative.
The connections are becoming ever more evident, as we see Mr Wedger making nice with the Scottish Fresh Start Foundation; meanwhile, the FSF’s Catriona Selvester has “updated” the RAINS list and plastered it not only on her own blog but on various other sites around the internet (presumably for safe-keeping?).
It’s very clear that we’re looking at yet another attempt by SRA promoters across the UK to distribute and publicise the RAINS list, and provoke yet another round of witch-hunts.
An excellent write-up EC. It certainly does appear that they wish to start another round of witch-hunts and they are pulling out all the stops, even bringing Bill Maloney out of retirement. Bill Maloney is well known for promoting stories of VIP paedophile abuse and SRA.
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What is it with Maloney, does he get some sort of peverted pleasure from all this bullshit, he never gives up does he
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No, he doesn’t.
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Yes, he certainly does seem to thrive on it, FG.
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His hissy fit over those garden gnomes in Jersey is a YT classic. He never did twig that it was pissheads taking the piss 😀
I’ll see if I can find it…
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Got it. It’s actually three hissy fits – at 12:12, 18:33 and 44:08:
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I noticed- after he was accused of falsely portraying himself as a winner at the very prestigous New York Film Festival and he removed this falsehood, he has re-instated the claim.
What he did was enter one of his atrocious unwatchable films (cameraperson – daughter) in a phony entity, the defunct New York Film and Video Festival which was trying to cash in on the other name. It lasted about 3 years before the New York Trading Standards authority decided to investigate it for fraud.
What they did was charge everyone who entered about $500 and then the entrants were charged huge sums for their film to be “premiered” at major theatres (which ended up being in The Bronx etc) with supposed numerous media attending (none ever turned up). And everyone won a “certificate”.
Sadly the USA is full of these shonky outfits (usualy started by the same fly-by-night grifters) that turn up regulalry to rip off prospective media industry hopefuls. Most people are furious after they realise they have been conned. Not Baloney though- decided to try and turn it to his advantage but alas, no directing offers have been forthcoming from major studios.
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Yeah. And the BBC have refused to broadcast it. Did he actually think his crappy handheld piece of junk was good enough ?
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Look at this!

There’s a skull, a lady with her boobs out, small children – it’s SATANIC! SATANIC ITELL YOU!
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Don’t joke- the Satanic signs are everywhere. Here is a blatant example. Few people would realise that that seemingly innocent bottle of Tomato Sauce in this window is in fact a bottle of fresh blood drained from the corpse of a hapless child who wandered too close to a murderous MKUltra Satanic Orgy held in a forest near you and probably attended by half the Conservative Party MPs.

It’s their favourite method of recruiting new members- invite them in for an innocent fish’n’chip dinner with sauce but they get a taste for fresh blood.
No idea who this alleged Devil Worshipper is….
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OMG it’s Satan Central!!
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The 🐶 is brilliant
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He comes across as a nasty hectoring bully.
His gatecrashing of poltician’s press conferences where he yelled and screeched forcing everyone to retreat from the Angry Ant is portayed by the Nutcase Brigade as a stunning victory rather than reality – sensible people walking away from a fuming member of the public who rants and raves about matters totally unconnected to the subject at hand.
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Yeah but it’s not all fun and games badgering Nick Clegg and Max Clifford. He likes looking over garden fences and into windows looking for weird statues. What next ? Finding a knob drawn on a bus stop and freaking out ” this is witchcraft ! A ****ing nonce drew that ! If I find him I’ll knock him out ! I’ve got boxing skills. Look, look at the satanic penis a child eating mason sadist drew here. Kids come to this bus stop. Darren! I need a piss and a red bull, this is witchcraft “
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A quick note to any fruitloops reading this post, this is how you join the dots and make credible connections between people.
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LOL thanks, Arthur.
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Join the red dots on mister (name removed for legal reasons)’s willy !!!
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I think i remember Spiv publishing this. Just noticed how Jean La Fontaine, a journalist from Private eye and well, others that have refuted SRA are part of that list.
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Yes, anyone they dislike or have had disagreements with. Reminds me of the list Abe & Ella concocted.
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Funny you say that EC as when Maloney led Wedger into stating that on the list was names of “politicians, police officers,lords” it reminded me of the two Hampstead children saying “teachers, Caffcass…”
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And Anne Greig
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I’m starting to see a pattern here…
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Hi Steve. Sorry, I don’t quite follow your point about the Private Eye journalist. What did they claim? I’m a subscriber to Private Eye and always post any ‘Satanic Panic’ articles here. They are hard line skeptics and sing from the same hymn sheet as us when it comes to SRA hysteria.
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There are a few articles here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cs5JMHDhIEV4inuFGVrqZtQSLYulZfKv
There used to be a great Eye article online (from 2015, I think) called ’20 Years of Satanic Panic’ but it appears not to be up any more.
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I have a stack of private eyes, gimmie an issue number or month/year and I’ll look into it.
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Forgot his name, but if you read the list, it mentions a Private eye journalist. I can’t remember who though.
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Jean La Fontaine? Explains why Jacqui Farmer/Ward/Alton had a downer on La Fontaine and thought she was one of the Illuminati. This, after working with the woman and being mentioned in the acknowledgements in her book.
Not sure if this article has been posted here before. It mentions the Hampstead case:
https://bfms.org.uk/jean-la-fontaine-on-satanic-ritual-abuse-panic/
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Now I can’t help but imagine Ted Heath as some sort of Freddy Krueger type character with his long sharp nails. 🙂
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The original Edward Scissorhands!
And lest we forget that the word ‘heathen’ comes from the name ‘Hampstead Heath‘ (according to Professor Mahmoudieh of the Fruitloop Institute of Academic Research). Coincidence? I think not 😮
We’re through the looking glass, people.
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You have crossed the final ‘t’ with heathen!
Edward, also pronounced Head Wood. “Head” as in the baby skulls on the necklaces and “Wood” the place Becki Percy runs around when she goes to Hull and back. It’s all becoming clearer…
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Head is the navy term for the toilet. Wood is slang for an erection. Headwood is therefore an erection used in a lavatory, or as a heath user would call it a cottage.
Also thinking of cottage reminds me of cottage cheese, a dairy product used for evil in voudou ceremonies.
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I went through the looking-glass AND down the rabbit-hole at the same time, took the wrong turning at High Holburn, and ended up in a badger’s sett. The badger was even more surprised than I was.
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For the record, I was merely acting as a messenger in relaying details
The technical term for Mr Green is “puke-funnel”.
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Five witnesses, all totally independent of each other, had provided, years ago, evidence of being sexually assaulted by Heath … Hence the credibility of the evidence of witnesses as described by the Chief Constable.
I had absolutely no personal contact with any of these witnesses, nor do I know of their identities.
“I have made no attempt to check whether these witnesses were indeed independent, or in fact whether they even existed outside the mind of a fabulating grifter. I therefore vouch for their credibility. By the way, I’m just a messenger and take no responsibility for any of it.”
With this level of gutless cowardice, has Mr Green considered changing his name to “Yellow”?
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But according to the eventual report they did know each other.
I’ve always pondered- seeing even police at the very top are no longer a proected species- that Veale walks on thin ice and could be very easily falsely accused himself. A 5 minute innocent encounter can be used to destroy anyone. Veale is too pink-cheeked, too “handsome” and too neat and apparently works out. Seems very proud of his physical and uniformed appearance. Nothing wrong with that.
I can image if he were falsely accused the general public could be easily swayed he was guilty just by his looks alone and by a “hiding in plain sight” factor. Just ask Paul Gambicinni how it works.
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Thanks for sharing this, EC.
I have to admit I chuckled at Jon Wedger referring to SRA as “the elephant in the room”. Isn’t the essence of an elephant in the room that everyone knows it’s there but no one wants to talk about it? Thing is, though, these people never shut the f*ck up about it!
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LOL yes!
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“And the more we look into it now, the more it’s [inaudible].”
“…behind so much…” (?)
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Oh, that could be. Thanks!
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I’ve still no idea who this person is or what s/he’s banging on about but s/he’s not letting it (whatever ‘it’ is) go. I think s/he may have escaped from somewhere.
(Posted on a Neelu video)
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Diplomacy in action:
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I vaguely remember Mr Litoris from before he changed his surname from Hunt.
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😂😂😂
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Becki Percy’s suing us? Too funny 😂 😂 😂
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I dare say that nice Mr. Hind will have a thing or two to say about that 😀
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Before Becki Percy can take court action I recommend she learns about a concept called evidence.
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In libel there is a reversal of the usual rules. In principle it is accepted that defamation occurred. It is then up to the defendant to “prove” what they were saying was true. Now this is where it gets tricky for Becki.
In the US they have a process called discovery which amounts to a great fishing expedition which could be hugely embarrassing for her. However, they also have the first amendment which would render the chances of a case reaching this stage negligible.
England & Wales doesn’t have discovery but we have disclosure. Put simply English law allows you to ask for documents, electronic or otherwise. A defendant would therefore be able to request access to all her emails and letters on the subject. A copy of all her emails and letters sent to, say, the relevant police forces and agencies detailing her complaints would probably turn up a big fat zero. In the absence of any corroborating evidence that what she is saying is true, proving a negative (i.e. the truth defence) may prove difficult but the honest opinion based on the known facts defence would hold.
Then there is the matter of serving notice. I don’t think it’s been tested in English law, but a Scottish case ruled that in order to get a provider such as WordPress to divulge information about its users, the case would have to be heard in the US courts, so we’re back to paragraph 2!
[Disclosure: whilst still I write material which requires me to keep abreast of libel laws, the last time I had to issue a Arkell v Pressdram style response was in 1996. I am not a lawyer!!!]
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I can say Becki Percy is an allegation maker, and can produce evidence in support. Becki Percy does not worry about evidence, it restricts her creative flow of fantasy making.
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Grand libel jury with the honourable judge Skippy presiding, soon as she pays the £7 fee for legal papers.
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When is this happening? Can I watch?
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In the woods of hull at midnight on a moonless night when she will have access to all the evidence
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An Angela Power Disney production staring Becki Percy a musical fantasy “Into the Woods”.
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Wedger strikes me as highly suspect.
As for the “RAINS” list I happen to have known one on it reasonably well. Lord Edward Montague was included and I think partly indicates how this list was compiled. Montague was bisexual but certainly not a pedophile although he did do jail time (he always maintained he was innocent of that charge but not of other then highly illegal homosexual encounters). Montague says he accepted his fate as a non winnable action by cops who were not only delighted to snare a member of the aristocracy but at that time actively despised people like him (along with pop stars etc). He would describe the almost hysterical excitment of police oifficers after his arrest.
My involvement with Montague was via a very good friend who happened to be an on/off lover of Montague’s over 2 decades. He was the son of a Montague employee on the property and says his relationship began after he was 18 and while he would have engaged personally with the Lord before that age Montague was very strict as he did not want to be known as “liking them too young”. I visited Beaulieu a few times with my pal- he and Montague remained great friends and I met a couple of his lovers over the years- both men in their late 20s. My pal died about 20 years ago in an accident.
But it indicates to me that much of the sheer hatred these fanatics engage in is also a virilent anti-gay sentiment they have weaved into the mix since anti-LGBT has become an anethema to the greater public. They have seized upon real and alleged or even fantasy “pedophilia” as a new cause (and again gives rise to possibly questioning suppressed desires that drives this fanaticism).
And they do not help prevent child abuse- they cloud and complicate the issue.
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Poor old Edward Heath always gets dragged into these things despite a lack of evidence.
“Let’s talk about Edward Heath.” “People do you know!”
“Is he gay?” “No he’s bloody miserable.”
I suspect the truth about old Ted’s sex life is actually very boring – he just chose to keep it private.
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A private sex life?! How very dare he!
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Excellent post EC!
My perspective on Mike Veale is that he has been the victim of a rather nasty and complicated long con of the sort depicted in the 1973 film The Wicker Man
Jut like the cop in The Whicker Man, Veale is convinced of his own moral superiority and his exceptional detecting skills. He possesses great faith in his ability to perceive sinister goings on beneath apparently innocent events
He believes that he is uncovering a sinister conspiracy of child sacrifice but is unable to see that he is the one who is being led on a merry dance from which he is unable to extract himself.
Veale has been influenced into playing the role of a fool and manipulated into believing that by doing so, he will be triumphant in unmasking an evil conspiracy of child sacrificers.
Unfortunately for Veale the other actors in this fascinating piece of participatory theatre have their own agendas and none of them will do a thing to save him when he meets his ultimate fate, which is to be sacrificed in the bonfire of public disgrace, while the most serious abuses of all will go unreported and unrecognised.
I couldn’t find a video of the ending in English, so this remix will have to do
I actually feel sorry for Mike Veale
Also, I just wanted to say thank you to all the people here who have expressed encouragement to me about my blog. I very much appreciate it 🙂
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Excellent post EC!
My perspective on Mike Veale is that he has been the victim of a rather nasty and complicated long con of the sort depicted in the 1973 film The Wicker Man
Jut like the cop in The Whicker Man, Veale is convinced of his own moral superiority and his exceptional detecting skills. He possesses great faith in his ability to perceive sinister goings on beneath apparently innocent events
He believes that he is uncovering a sinister conspiracy of child sacrifice but is unable to see that he is the one who is being led on a merry dance from which he is unable to extract himself.
Veale has been influenced into playing the role of a fool and manipulated into believing that by doing so, he will be triumphant in unmasking an evil conspiracy of child sacrificers.
Unfortunately for Veale the other actors in this fascinating piece of participatory theatre have their own agendas and none of them will do a thing to save him when he meets his ultimate fate, which is to be sacrificed in the bonfire of public disgrace, while the most serious abuses of all will go unreported and unrecognised.
I couldn’t find a video of the ending in English, so this remix will have to do
I actually feel sorry for Mike Veale
Also, I just wanted to say thank you to all the people here who have expressed encouragement to me about my blog. I very much appreciate it 🙂
I tried to post this and it didn’t show up, if it posts twice can a mod please delete? Thanks
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The second time you watch the Wicker Man, especially the beetle scene, you become acutely aware that you have a hero too dense or arrogant to perceive the warnings that almost every character gives directly to his face. Something similar happens in “The Draughtman’s Contract”.
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And on that note, I think you’ll perhaps conclude that Veale is more like the Nicholas Cage version in the comedy remake!
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I have never seen the remake, watched the original many times. The remake was panned by the critics I read but I might give it a try if GoS likes it so much.
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The original is one of my favourite movies, I didn’t like the remake at all.
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I think that plenty pf people warned Mike Veale, or at least tried to. It is terribly sad really. Once someone is in the grip of a cult, and the SRA promoting conspirators are in a kind of cult, it is very difficult to talk sense to them. They prefer the dream to reality. As many before have said, it is very depressing that so many people actually want this stuff to be true.
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Loved both of these films-the one with Edward Woiodward and the later one with Nicolas Cage, one of my favourite actors.
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I kinda like Bill Maloney. He’s a nice enough chap really. His only faults are his gross stupidity, complete inability to produce tangible evidence and an obsessive belief ranting at weird garden gnomes equates to investigative journalism. Aside from all that he’s quite amusing. He’s known to associate with Brian from east 17. So overall he’s not so bad.
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The transcript of Wedgers’s words in the video (which wasn’t easy to pick out) I think is this:
“Jon: Well, it’s the elephant in the room. Any act of sexual crime against a child has got a big Satanic element to it, you know, and it’s one of those things that the more you look into it, the more it crops up, y’know, and there is an organised element to it. ”
It is a really weird thing to say, is it not? What exactly is a “Satanic element” and “any act”. It really boggles the mind how these people think, that they see Satan everywhere.
Responsibility for anything evil can’t just be human. It has to involve some seemingly all-powerful Satan it seems.
It really is comic book/infantile thought. Ultimate good guy/bad guy silliness.
I suppose that is why these hoaxes and throwaway accusations without any evidence appeal to simple minded or simplistic thinking people.
People like Maloney and Wedger (like may others too) create a fantasy picture which always involves bad guys – who tend to be people in position of great power who are abusing the little ordinary folk. This seems just the thing to be picked up by anyone who does not feel that they have any control over their life and wants to blame external powerful forces for everything bad they see.
As I understand it, the vast majority of abuse of children is carried out by someone very close to them. This real abuse doesn’t get so much attention and is really covered up and drowned by the noise and clamour of all this satanic conspiracy tosh, which is why it is so dangerous. It does not help real victims/survivors in any way and probably helps to cover up real abuse by diverting attention away from reality with fantastical stories.
anon
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The sad truth is that the epidemic and the majority of child abuse in all forms is carried out by intensley boring “normal” mundane people from every strata of society.
These fanatics tend to water down the public’s interest by promoting a fantastical belief in organised gangs of Devil Worshippers etc,
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What about the PAINS list ?
People
Alleging
Implausible
Nonexistent
Satanim
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Good idea ! Grobnob
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They’re a pain the arse for sure
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Sorry, Angie – real journalists have to tell the truth.
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Story from 2015 – finger on the pulse yet again!
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I know, right!
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Has she only just discovered this story?.
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She is out of line with her fellow Hoax promoter Dr Kurz who claims Marie Black is innocent:
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/09/20/chartered-occupational-psychologist-claims-to-be-expert-in-satanic-ritual-abuse/
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@Paul Sumner – Don’t give up your day job to become a lawyer, whatever you do.
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Oh dear, Paul Sumner.
My usual question arises: how does Paul negotiate leaving his front door, approaching the bus or tube stop without falling down a manhole or walking under the bus, stepping off the Tube platform?
Do these people have Carers?.
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Anyone still have any doubts that John Taylor’s a sick bastard?
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Bastard.
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And right in touch: Taiwan?
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Another pair of charmers from Camp Fruitloop:
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What’d the poor sod do? Wish her a good morning?
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I’m not up on the story but they appear to be referring to Toby Young, a journalist who also runs the New Schools Network charity. Apparently he said something inappropriate about disabled people (allegedly).
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Ah, okay.
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“Comments now disabled! I wonder why.”
I’ll tell you why, Sarah – because they don’t like their videos being used by pychos like you to troll innocent people and harass their children. FUCKING DEAL WITH IT
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Hehe 😀
(Not a Hampstead-related video, btw.)
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OK, it seems Sarah Hemingway’s Facebook page is a bottomless pit of nastiness about RD and his kids. Will put together a folder and post the link here when it’s ready…
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EC, I would like you to explain what it is you think that Veale, presented with allegations that a former prime minister had committed acts of child abuse, should have done.
Are you suggesting he should just have ignored them?
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Vetting his sources, checking their credibility and questioning the veracity of the evidence they presented might have been a good start.
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Giving his head a wobble might have been a good idea too.
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Are you implying that he didn’t do any of the above? That is a serious thing to say. The report his office produced suggests that they did indeed vet the sources, check their credibility and check the veracity of the evidence.
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“Are you implying that he didn’t do any of the above?”
Yes, I am. Feel free to fill out a complaint from and leave it with my secretary
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Barrister Matthew Scott referred to the “institutionally credulous Wiltshire Police”, an opinion with which I fully concur.
http://barristerblogger.com/2017/10/09/operation-conifer-report-sir-edward-heath-empty-exercise-self-justification/
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Tinribs, I think that is an uncharitable comment, and the fact that it received three likes reminds me that unfortunately groupthink is by no means absent from this blog. Actually it’s mainly why I don’t comment on here any more. I note that a respected journalist made similar observations recently so I’m not the only one to find the tone of some of the comments that are allowed here quite unpleasant at times.
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“Tinribs, I think that is an uncharitable comment”
And believe me, I feel just awful about it.
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The police press conference announcing the investigation was a publicity stunt held in front of Heath’s former home;
One interviewee was jailed for 12 months for making a bomb threat during the London Olympics. During that investigation was found to be in possession of a memory stick containing forty indecent images of children and had previously claimed that Heath was recruited by the Abwehr at a Nazi rally in Nuremberg in 1937;
Another was a Twitter fantasist who was previously known to be a person who made unfounded accusations against senior politicians based on no evidence;
Another interviewee had been convicted of child sex crimes;
And no alarm bells had rung? Even at this point Veale had told others that he “120%” believed the complainants.
Tinribs made a very good point:
“Vetting his sources, checking their credibility and questioning the veracity of the evidence they presented might have been a good start.”
I’ll leave it to others to draw their own conclusions as to whether that is what he did.
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I would grant that Veale’s comment that he ‘120%’ believed the complainants was unwise.
I do not believe that the report he produced is deficient however. I always encourage people to read the actual detail of reports and not rely on off-the-cuff comments from police officers.
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“Another interviewee had been convicted of child sex crimes”
It is well testified to in the research that a small % of abuse victims unfortunately do turn in abusers themselves.
I find your implication that because an interviewee had themselves been convicted of child sex crimes that they must be lying very troubling. This is again one of the problems about this comments on this blog. People just mouth off about serious matters without doing the necessary research.
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When the report from Project Conifer was released last year we read it closely, and then wrote about it in several articles. We do keep track of what certain other bloggers and public commentators have to say, but we definitely do our own research first. It’s a bit presumptuous to assume that our opinions are just rehashes of the work of others, don’t you think?
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^ typo above. Turn out to be abusers is what I meant to type.
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tdf
I’m immensely curious about your opinion of the scammers, grifters and conspiracy theorists who have caused misery to countless people with false allegations of satanic ritual abuse, child sexual abuse and child murder.
Do you have an opinion on the issue or are you just here to whine about criticism of Mike Veale?
Please enlighten us also as to the details of Veale’s report that you believe we have overlooked. I would simply love to know about these wondrous details, so please do share.
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A dead former prime minister at that.
They should have dug up his corpse and tried that of course.
Maybe the murder rate in the U.K. actually is several times the recorded rate, the murder of children by non parents many many squillions times bigger than the recorded rate.
I think there should have been an investigation.
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There is an Oglaf for all occasions.

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Sarah Hemingway folder, as promised 🙂
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ew14_c27lRKoHUV8fqaTMDAYl4irJS9M
As well as her creepy ‘Slimegate’ comments about RD and his children, there’s an epic bust-up with the ever-side-switching Yannis Emmanouel and childish attacks on Tim Haines (who dares to ask her polite questions) and a number of her own friends who fail to fall into line. Oh and Angie and Tracey both make appearances, with Angie bringing with her her usual array of baseless defamation.
Here are some selected highlights:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TNqDz_ZGYzCDVgI9csX5DLJm4adYZcQc
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Some Angie highlights:
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Gawd, where to start with this lot?
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Couldn’t Rupert settle this “is Angie a man / woman” business?. He’s been near the nether regions or so I heard.
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I can’t remember who started the “Angie is a man” thing, I’ve always thought it is a bit of a cheap and silly insult. I really don’t care how ugly her face has become; millions of other people destroy their looks with booze and fags. What really matters is how ugly her heart has become. She’s so incredibly nasty even to her own friends and family – that’s what’s really repulsive about her.
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Although this is quite nasty too:

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OK, I know I’m gonna sound stupid here but I’d never heard of the ‘Angie is a man’ thing until now. Just me?
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I don’t think we’ve ever mooted that about; it was something posted elsewhere online, perhaps Facebook? To be honest I didn’t pay much attention, as it seemed silly to me.
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Angie Threatens to Horsewhip Her Sister, 05.09.14
Angie Abusing Her Father, 29.05.15
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I seem to recall that the “Angie is a man” thing originated with Yannis. Then again, he also told her that this blog is run by “at least two” paedophiles, and that he was best friends with RD and had visited him many times.
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Yes, I don’t think her physical appearance is relevant. It’s her internal ugliness which repels me.
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LOL, nice try Angie 😂
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Vangate latest
Neelu’s other legal advisor has turned up to magic all her fines away. Edward will be sooo jealous…
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Sheriff Cant 😂
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So has he actually sent this message to the CEO of Newlyns or just posted it on Neelu’s Facebook page?
Does he actually believe this gibberish will have any effect?
I sometimes wish Neelu would just get herself some proper legal advice.
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I had a quick scan through saff’s article on the rains list.
Michael Winner ? A paedo ?
Seriously ? Winner is one of the most steadfast and outspoken anti rapist guys out there. He directed death wish for ****’s sake. I still remember his true crime series and the Colin pitchfork episode. Michael winner may not have been Orson Welles when it came to making movies but he rabidly despised criminals and none more so than rapists and child abusers. I expect he refused to promote whacksdoodle evidence light cases on his tv show and as a result was seen as covering stuff up.
Disgusting way to treat the dead.
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I’m surprised his next door neighbour isn’t on that list though, he ticks a lot of boxes for the satan hunters.
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I suppose their logic is that Michael Winner liked younger women therefore he must be a paedophile. I suspect that most of the hoaxers are incredibly jealous of anyone with a sex life. At the risk of being patronising, I’d say that most of them would give up promoting their rubbish if they had a proper emotional life.
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Er…no you haven’t, Anonymous White. Sorry, I mean Michelle. Oops!
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Oh FFS, Terri Stewart is back using a different username and saying she has written a book and is featuring the Hampstead children and Hollie Greig in it.
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Thanks for the heads-up, JB.
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Blurb on “Our Little Darlings Die Book 4 of 6” by Terri Stewart.
[i]While we see specific stories covered of child trafficking and abduction, etc., there are thousands upon thousands that we do not. For instance, on the Dark or Deep Web, contrary to what you may hear, you can find snuff films such as “Daisy’s Destruction”, filmed in the Philipines, in other countries stories abound like the story of Madeline McCann, a beautiful little girl taken while she and her family were on vacation in Portugal. So, for various reasons, this is happening whether it be in your neighborhood or in a different country, and we are simply not aware. Satan is really good at attempting to distract us from what is really going on and also making it so frightening and ugly that no one wants to see. But for the sake of these little children, no matter where they are from, if you see suspicious photos or if you are out in public and see a child with an adult that isn’t acting normal, let someone know.
Too many times we are so consumed with our own lives and business that we fail to really look at what is going on around us. Children locked up for years with next door neighbors, store clerks and possibly doctors who “didn’t see a thing”? Really? Or did they see and not want to be bothered with their own suspicions? We must start paying attention to what is going on around us, what is happening to our children at daycare and at school? Who are they around, what kind of people are they, who may hang out on the street they walk home on? We have to start asking because from what I have learned, these monsters are everywhere; in every business, in every walk of life, in every supposedly “kid-safe” place. I assure you, these places are the worst. A pedophile will always target places where children will be and are often, even for short moments, being left alone around other children.
In this racket, there may be several type of people involved. As with the Peter Chernoff and Kevin Collins kidnapping and transporting to Bohemian Grove, his job was to locate and take Kevin. Other people are groomers and are typically the ones to subject the children to the worst horrors. In SRA’s there is a cult leader overseeing the affairs of the cult and an example would be selecting what age child that was wanted and possibly a particular child entirely.
One thing we see over and over and over is the failure of those meant to protect these children being the very ones instigating and participating in the running of these operations. It goes all the from the top to the bottom and until those of us in the know or suspicion of these things happening get enough courage to speak up and speak out, these kids are doomed and we will all be to blame.
Be sure to get my next book in the series where we are going to do some in-depth research into what Pizzagate really is. We’ll take a look at the Clinton leaked emails that brought John Podesta to the forefront and James Alifantis at Comet Pizza. Things are certainly not what they seem; they are worse[/i]
If you choose to shell out £2.09 you will receive the whole 19 pages! Not so much a book as an essay. What would you call this shabby profiteering? Paedosploitation?
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Also by the same author: [b] Every Eye Shall See: The Flat Earth Theory and Prophecy [/b]
This “book” has one review – the only one she gets on Amazon:
“Thank you for writing a short pamphlet! I look forward to a more detailed, organized sequel or revision. Much respect, Drew.”
Clearly Terri Stewart is a formidable intellect!
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Hi guys, I don’t know if you’re aware of this but I feel it’s rather important. Brian Harvey (ex East 17) goes off on Bill Maloney and the other ‘usual suspects’. This isn’t directly a Hoaxtead story but it’s certainly related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBtAWquCFqo
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