Following yesterday’s hearing at Southwark Crown Court, Sabine McNeill has been granted bail, and the £20,000 security which was crowdfunded by Belinda, Angela, and Sabine’s own solicitor among others was accepted by the court.
HH Judge Beddoe acknowledged that crowd-funding a bail security does devalue the intent behind the security, as it creates a situation in which those providing the security are in fact dividing the risk amongst themselves, thus potentially reducing the onus on the defendant to comply with bail conditions. However, he said that since this method of obtaining money for a bail security is still novel, no case law currently exists which would prohibit the court from accepting it.
The judge retired to consider the matter. When court resumed, he said that Sabine would be granted bail, but that it would come with increased and more closely defined restrictions.
Prior to her release from prison, Sabine must:
- Surrender all internet-enabled devices;
- Secure £20k; and
- Surrender her passport and any other items which might enable her to apply to abscond.
Post-release, Sabine is prohibited from using the internet in any way. In addition, she is required to obey the following conditions:
- She must supply details of her phone to the police, and she is not permitted to use any other phone;
- She is to have no communications with any media, and she is not permitted to publish any content, directly or indirectly;
- She is not permitted to apply for any documents which might enable her to leave the country;
- She must reside at at her stated address; and
- She is not permitted to act as a McKenzie friend.
It is not clear to us whether Belinda attended court yesterday. Nor is it clear whether the pre-release conditions were met, enabling Sabine to leave Bronzefield prison.
Sabine’s next court date will be 8 January 2018, at which time we expect her trial date may be set. She currently faces 19 charges in total: four of stalking causing alarm or distress, and 15 counts of violating the lifetime restraining order placed upon both Sabine and Neelu Berry in July 2016. Sabine has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
Updated to add:
Belinda has now offered an explanation for her absence at yesterday’s bail security hearing: she feared arrest once the court was informed of the true provenance of the £20,000 bail security.
She states that “certain parties in the shadows were bent on trying to scupper Sabine’s bail and entangle me in criminal proceedings as well!”
This seems a very odd conclusion to draw, unless one assumes that Belinda’s conscience, or perhaps just her instinct for self-preservation, was pricked in some way.
As it is, Belinda’s claim that the money had come from “close friends of Sabine or my own Facebook friends” does seem to stretch the truth. Rather, many donors seemed to be connected to Belinda or Sabine by the thinnest, most gossamer of threads. Some had no idea what they were donating to, as evidenced by the comments on various Facebook discussions. We suspect that had the court been correctly informed of this, rather than being assured that only “eight donors” were involved, the judge’s decision yesterday might have been different.
May justice be done!
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WOW
Is there a time limit on the post release conditions or are they permanent too?
(being banned from the net forever would be a little excessive at first thought, then I had a second think about her behaviour and thought- nah, I’m happy with that)
Wonder if mad moo, neelu and apd are having rethinks about blatently ignoring the original court orders and their general online behaviour….
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“Wonder if Mad Moo…and APD are having rethinks about blatantly ignoring the original court orders and their general online behaviour….”
Their time will come, mate 😉
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From what I read they’re bail conditions so only last as long as bail is in force.
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Well, here’s another case of online harassers going to prison:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/15/teenager-jailed-for-trolling-footballer-andy-woodward-about-abuse
“Lewis Hawkins, 18, and his father, David Riches, were both sentenced to 12 months after tweets that left abuse survivor in tears”.
Some people’s sick little hobby is going to be progressively wiped out. Hooray!
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Thanks for sharing this, Justin.
Father and son?! Too creepy. Shame on the dad. What a poor role model.
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Yes, having the father and son engaged in that sort of behaviour together somehow makes the crime even more reprehensible.
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Wow, what terrible things those men did. I am glad they are paying for it. I do hope that more of this happens. Thank you for the report Justin Sanity.
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I think this is very telling and could apply to so many of these fanatical false accusers:
“In a police interview, Hawkins said: “I was so bitter about my own life I thought I would try to upset somebody else’s.””
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It is good to see that courts are starting to realise the seriousness of online harassment and the how it can affect peoples lives.
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“She must supply details of her phone to the police, and she is not permitted to use any other phone;
She is to have no communications with any media, and she is not permitted to publish any content, directly or indirectly;
She is not permitted to apply for any documents which might enable her to leave the country;
She must reside at at her stated address; and
She is not permitted to act as a McKenzie friend.”
The first two I would think really will be hard to police, whether she will comply with them remains to be seen. I simply cannot see her complying with the 2nd one as she does not seem to be taking responsibility for her actions & never did.
Thank you for the update EC.
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Yeah, she could get herself a pay-as-you-go mobile and the police would be none the wiser. Which I think reinforces my point below predicting that she will balls this up and land herself in even deeper hot water. Last time she was bailed and told not to discuss the Hampstead case, she went on the radio and talked about it practically on the way home from the police station:
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I think the police should have escorted Belinda to collect the tech…… but I assume, maybe naively that they have been monitoring or can ? I watch too much tv…. I love Blacklist 🙂 & persons of interest 🙂 But hunters where they tracked and found people I thought was showing us, that they can and will look at facebook for clues in crimes…….. wishfully thinking of a roundup
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Hoaxmobbers to varying degrees appear to have acquired a condition that surpresses the ability to shut the fuck up and leave well alone.In fact their entite raison d’être appears to be predicated upon disrespect for legal processes and spouting attention seeking bollocks regardless of inor inconveniences such as rationale or consequences.
I for one will be gobsmacked if Sabine adheres to the bail conditions yet alone remain in the uk.
With Christies business acumen,I am surprised he hasnt spotted a burgeoning gap the market and in partnership with Kirk transport arranged to air drop fellow runaway Hoaxmobbers into self contained desert hidey holes,all of course royally funded by braindead facebook virtue signallers.
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Thanks for updating us, EC, and for your clear, succinct report.
I know people will be disappointed that she wasn’t kept in but may I throw my hat of optimism into the ring and say that going by our past knowledge of Sabine, she will almost certainly break these bail conditions dig herself into an even deeper hole?
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I agree that it’s going to be very difficult for her to avoid breaking her bail conditions. We’ve seen in the past how seriously she takes such things, and how her combination of arrogance and exceptionalism have led her further and further into hot water.
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And how many will clap like trained seals and maybe even risk themselves in an attempt of a show of strength, forcing their demands, because of the nature of this as it is becoming more clear to more people as dots are being joined.
Thanks to Fresh Fart associates alot of information has reached people that really had no idea. Thanks to Outlaw Jimmy Jones, who they like to call a troll, but who was maliciously trolled by a liar who confessed to it. Jumping in for Danny,
There was a flat earthturd geordie in Chanters chat the other night, 2 trolls. And he has recently been targeted by them, I reckon as a backlash, because the info I picked up from him on UK troofers, really helped, but one good thing that came out of having just the TV is that I could watch alot, cos his titles don’t always include names, but he dropped some brilliant info on Camelot and Bill Ryan, Simon Parkes, Miles Johnston, the sick use of Max Spiers death and of course Zen Gardner which gave me an important piece of info, on David Icke and Mel Ve, and I found just a subtle comment, was making them twitch, fallout, scatter, but find some new sicker way to stop me and this blog, all the video makers and anyone in their way……….
Are they forcing a precedent to be made ? It had better be a good one then……..
Not many seem to have noticed, but the fact that the case was in open court was maybe a precedent ?
or if they keep up their behaviour the open ness that was beginning, will be withdrawn……..
The golden rule broken is the childrens’ privacy broken.
You can publish about your case as long as you don’t give any clue about their identity, if people can’t work out that that is to protect children from real abusive parents, people encouraging parents to be as stroppy as possible just like the beat the bailiff and freeman types, are gonna get you in bigger trouble than you had already. Trouble is though, system full of people, people don’t always do their job as well as they could, some people shouldn’t be in some jobs, training needs to shift gears, allsorts both and every which ways need sorting, There can be graded types of contact but if people are encouraged to abuse social workers, more protection will be in play for everyone. With willingness and acceptance, contacts can be in lots of different situations made as pleasant as possible, but also spiteful social workers do exist, bad policies and influences not condusive to good practise mean that some parents are treated appallingly and the state behaves like the worst kind of alienating parent…….. are, no one has successfully done that. So why listen to those encouraging you, who’ve not one a case, there are many, that have retrieved their child from care. metoo. .From a hatefull and I mean full ex, no.
That was for any people believing their bs.
Is it my imagination or lack of sleep, or have the figures tripled on here lately ?
Thanks everyone again…… I’m just starting to get used to having a few platforms open….. But shifting files around…. I’m struggling to even file my photos ……..SYHs 🙂
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Belinda: “There was to be a hearing on the bail issue, as there were concerns (I think we can guess from who!)…”
Ooh, you’ve got me there, Belinda. Do tell! 😀
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Belinda: “There was to be a hearing on the bail issue, as there were concerns (I think we can guess from who!)…”
I am shocked and appalled by that comment… It’s ‘from whom’, Belinda, not ‘who from’.
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And to think she’s a graduate of Oxford. For shame!
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Oxford Poly?
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Perseverence was a parrot who I lived with
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Hehe 😀
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This is Belinda’s speciality: insinuation and innuendo, by which she controls her weak-minded followers.
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Yeah, that’s why I did it alot at times, cos I knew if no one else did, those stalking me would know exactly what I was saying….. Have any of them ever challenged me in a real way ? No. Partly because I spent so much time in amongst their groups, so many witnessed things that I mention. Also they can’t deny doing the things that they’ve tried to hide from me, because again, witnessed by people at those events, I never go to where all the gossip and plans get made.
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“Here I am this evening in my favourite armchair with my cat on my lap!”
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is it possible for Sabine to move any further to the right?
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Watch out for those shoe spikes, Blolinda 😮
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What’s all this fuss Belinda keeps making about getting to the prison? She lives 20 foot from a bloody tube station!
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Yep, I used to play in those woods, my dad worked at Highgate bus garage. S’why I know about the tunnels.
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Yes, I’m now hearing that she told the paralegal to say she’d got lost en route! Funny, she had no trouble at all getting to that court for Rupert’s trial.
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Belinda’s just trying not to fill her pants, just incase it’s her turn next.
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Yes Belinda is very scared at the thought of going to prison herself and when one of her friends is jailed she doesn’t make much of an effort to visit them at all. As long as it’s not her behind bars then she is happy.
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Wasn’t Sabine in Bronzefield?
To visit you get a train to Heathrow and then you get a taxi. Simples.
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A bit expensive.
She could drive there in less than an hour (depending on traffic/jams of course) and it’d be cheaper too (no taxi fare) unless she breaks down because she needs new mud flaps.
I wonder where Belinda is sleeping at night seeing as she is in fear of being arrested and imprisoned?
She’s giving out a good impression that she is even if she’s not. What is she afraid of?
Is Belinda sleeping in one of her underground bunker rooms, at one of her sons, in Sabine’s flat or staying with another of her friends?
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“She states that ‘certain parties in the shadows were bent on trying to scupper Sabine’s bail and entangle me in criminal proceedings as well’!”
Hmm. Sounds like she’s once again preparing to pass the buck and throw one of her fawning minions under the bus, like she did to Robert Green. I wonder who it is this time. I’ll die laughing if it’s Angela and Weaselly.
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Well they probably were lol, as if Belinda would ever dirty her hands 🙂
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Mel really shouldn’t have scoffed and sneered about me caring alot for the place I was born and lived in till I was 13. But her precious Saf Africaans,,,,, the Boers, yeh they were really nice to the natives fcough…… anyway, I growled at that and am not gonna let her forget that she boasted about working at the BBC with David Icke and Max Clifford on a documentary, tried to give Zen Gardner a pass, but why on earth she thought Angie was capable of even trhying that, I was crying with laughter, So when Chanter did his, it was like wow, perfect. !
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Where is this Sheva? Send links!
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I think she wrote it here on this blog ? When she was informing EC of her split from Angie. I’ll have a look. She said a bit about me on one of the CCN vidoes when Angie was still on board, too, describing in derogarory ways, very damaged, bitter, etc. Again, I’ll see if I can find it.
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https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/what-really-happened-with-mel-ve-and-hope-girl/#comment-66345
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/what-really-happened-with-mel-ve-and-hope-girl/#comment-66540
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/what-really-happened-with-mel-ve-and-hope-girl/#comment-66346
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/what-really-happened-with-mel-ve-and-hope-girl/#comment-66476
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/what-really-happened-with-mel-ve-and-hope-girl/#comment-66536
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/04/22/what-really-happened-with-mel-ve-and-hope-girl/#comment-66573
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Ogilvy’s had a night off from blogging/trolling (or George has fired him?). Still, at least he found time to visit his Koreas adviser…
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Maybe he heard that in the stars.
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Passive-aggressive wanker update:
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Correct me if I’m wrong…but as far as I can remember, the children never said “strange religion” or “cult” either. Adults who were talking to them or around them, may have used the word “religion” or “cult”, but the kids don’t. It would be very surprising if they did, because children that age wouldn’t be expected to comprehend those concepts well enough to understand why they might be applied to “a bunch of adults having sex with kids and killing babies”. And a careful examination of the discussion recorded by Jean Claude (?) reveals that the kids DO NOT possess the knowledge and understanding that hoaxers keep falsely claiming that they did have.
What I remember, is that during one of the police interviews the boy is asked something like: “and what is this religion called?” (which I thought was strange, because the boy hadn’t used that word and interviewer was clearly inferring that the activity in question was “a religion”) – and the boy replies: “it’s not called NOTHING!”.
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Now you see it…
Now you don’t…
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Well done but I find it’s really hit & miss with reporting these outrages. I find Twitter especially loathsome & reluctant to remove quite vile racist attacks.
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I totally agree with you GOS about Twitter. They give me a notice that they’ve received my report and then i hear nothing from them again about what actions if any they took.
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I’d love to know where she gets her research from
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She?
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TGIF Funtime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX3ZVGq3ftU&lc=z221s5txjsjmulysaacdp43b3tsbd1jsyke1ir3vo45w03c010c.1513388419959537
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Oh, I forgot to hit enter this one’s funny too and there’s more 🙂
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Sounds very like some one from Nottingham, so also spouts bull shit, tells survivors not to go to the police, spouts Jesus shite, and also likes the sound of her own voice.
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Demonise the competition so they can earn dollars and not help anyone. They are treating people like a commodity………..hate what they’ve done.
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Yep, it does, doesn’t it.
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LMAO!
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Posting compliments on YouTube is a criminal offence now, apparently. And Debs should know – she’s an EU law expert, you know…
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To be fair, it was a really offensive comment that I left:
I reckon the rozzers will throw the book at me for that one.
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I meant that 100%, by the way. The guy’s doing great work helping young aspiring film-makers and he is really eloquent and articulate in his interview. Fair play to him.
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Yes, not his fault his mother is a loon.
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He was indeed as you say and quite handsome and seemed to be very smart. What funny things families can be. You can get a sane, normal down to earth person and another who is barking. Absolutely barking.
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Debs would know all about “slanderous hate campaigns”, wouldn’t she.
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That video isn’t even her son’s – it’s on the Red Carpet Report channel.
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I think Moo has finally rendered me speechless.
As she hyperventilates about being “harassed” she demands someone go to police and show them his willy.
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I thought she was estranged from her family.
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Seems so, yes.
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Of course it is everyone around Debs that is wrong or evil. It can’t be Debs herself that is in the wrong and yet she is the common denominator in losing her friends and family through her words and actions.
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Rants about stalking and harassment… then posts a demand to look at a guy’s willy. No hypocrisy there, then.
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WTF? LOL
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Why does she keep saying we know her address and phone number? We don’t. If she’s got some evidence to the contrary I’d very much like to see it.
And yes, it’s perfectly possible to respond to someone’s Facebook post soon after it’s posted. The fact that she thinks this “means something” is only further evidence of the fact that she’s lost her marbles.
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And if it did mean something, she’d presumably be taking it up with her handler Kristie Sue, who does the same to us.
And yes, I’d love to see Debs produce just one link to or screenshot of just one post or comment on here where anyone mentions her address or phone number or shows a picture of her house (which she said was recently repossessed anyway).
By the way, she’s an avid supporter of psychostalker John Paterson. Not that she lets that stop her preaching about harassment, though.
Oh and seeing as she’s apparently such an avid fan of the law, I assume she’s aware that antisemitic race hate speech is illegal too. Eh, Debs?
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She’s ghastly and we have never said we would sue her. How could we? But we have advised the father to sue the vile piece of goods but he’s obviously got an awful lot to deal with with these cowardly attacks coming from every angle,
Costa’s mocking and obvious delight in her efforts shows a quite twisted mind.
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I have never seen Debs address, phone number or pictures of her house posted online anywhere. I wonder if she has proof that this happened? I bet she doesn’t, much like Angie and her supposed page of death threats from us, non existent.
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D & P Deflection & Projection or sheer Denial ?
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Hey, how’s this for a novel idea, Debs? If you don’t like innocent people defending themselves, don’t spend 3 years running a libellous fucking hate campaign against them. Simples.
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I must confess this is my fault. I was hired by Black Cube to stalk Moo and photograph her & her house- see below. No I’m not posting her phone number, that would be just mean. Won’t be exposing my willy to the local plod either.
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Is that the famous goatshed I’ve heard so much about?
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Now Moosnight is reading my mind and quickly posting my thoughts before I can. He’s got one of them #DirectEnergyMachines hasn’t he.
Note: Moo is advocating LSD.
Have we found the source of her troubled mind?
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Oh, what a shame – I’ve upset Kane Slater 😀
By the way, what kind of life does he lead if he thinks a “spiny norman” is a type of dildo?
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KSC does know the name of at least one dildo, it’s called Kane Slater.
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I think he is thinking of “Steely Dan”!
Spiney Norman the dildo? The very thought brings tears to the eyes!
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#DINSDALE!
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Indeed, Reverend! Clearly Slater and Costa have never seen Monty Python 🙂
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Python? Is that some kind of Dildo?
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Slater’s still posting videos of the children, including one of the little boy sitting on a bed in his underpants 😦
I’ve reported the sick perverted bastard.
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I see arfur is jumping back in…
and whose is this one?
http://co-creatingournewearth.blogspot.com
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That’s Bronwyn’s blog. Check out the screenshots from it:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fVESS76u3pG4Se6-TmwO5z9wb1CDKUP1
Oh and she’s an avid fan of old Trumpy too. Debs must love her for that:
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They both have fat arses but probably a lot more in common as well. The Washington Post has calculated that the President has told 5 1/2 lies each day since he was elected so no wonder BronHilda feels empathy with him.
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Does Vickie Geerdes think Jesus works for the Metropolitan Police?
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Jesus? That’s Mr. Hamashiach-Amein to you, sonny.
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No Jesus plays football for Manchester City.
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Is he any good with crosses?
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He’s always willing to sacrifice himself for the good of the team.
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Bellend is really being a drama queen claiming she was frightened of being arrested at court. The cops know where she lives and when in history has anyone ever been arrested for posting bail on behalf of someone else?.
The judge summed up the bail situation quite adequately.
I have no objection to the person being bailed but it seems to me the prosecution are very very serious and may have all their duck in a row this time.
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that’s “ducks in a row” of course but who knows, they may only have one duck. Shouldn’t have had that second beer at lunch but it’s very hot Down Under today.
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She loves the attention from her fruity loopy donators, she makes it all up as she goes along, then back tracks and changes the subject if challenged.
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Could we organise a whip around to get the fare for Moo to travel to the Sahara and await the rain?.
We could get her a tent and one of Naima Dawn Feagin’s perpetual motion machines to run the air-conditioning and her laptop to send regular Youtube reports.
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By Angie’s ‘logic’, does that mean Jesus was also responsible for sending Rupert down for 9 months? 😉
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Actually, I think the Holy Spirit may have been in on it too…
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“The #HolySpirit will guide you into ALL truth”
Yeah? So what went wrong in your case then, Angie? 😮
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The only spirit guiding her comes out of a bottle.
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How was the manner of bail being raised “misrepresented” and by whom?
Hoaxtead has only reported facts and the judge seems to have reached a similar conclusion given that he expressed the fact “crowd sourcing” was a new thing and could somewhat mute the entire reasoning behind bail.
This is what judges do- they point to matters of law and the complexities and anomalies. Nonetheless he gave the accused the benefit of doubt and granted her release.
Power-Disney yet again demonstrates a woeful ignorance in her “journalism” career. Journalists usually love to find any matter that can be queried but not APD.
But then she now claims she is an Evangelist (stop laughing) although who she preaches to is a mystery. Maybe the cat listens.
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And a cat would patiently listen to a long dissertation from Jack the Ripper if it thought food may be produced at the end of it.
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Double whammy! 😀
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Nice work! 👍🏻
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Must nearly be time for his next banning I reckon, seems he’s had a few deletions recently
🙂
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No, they’re the only two for some time. But yeah, definitely a suspension.
I’m particularly pleased about the nudity one. He posted a video of Child G talking on a bed in his underpants. Now all his fawning supporters (Arfur, Kristie Sue, Mad Moo, Jake, Manuela etc.) will get to see in black and white what a pervert he is.
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A photo like that would be classed as child pornography or a child abuse image under law, given the manner in which it is used.
Should be reported to the proper police department.
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Fantastic work as always SSFS.
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The lies and harassment against RD continue 😦
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Getting a tad tired of this Jake Clarke prat disguising his nasty inner self with his flowery hippy style claptrap.
Needs to be prosecuted for continuing to breach court orders and publishing images of child abuse victims which is a crime.
I don’t care what these creeps think about who they claim is a child abusing cannibal but their endless posting of those kid’s images is a despicable act.
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Define “fake accounts” please, Jake. Do you mean people who use pseudonyms (perfectly acceptable under YT rules)? Tell you what – why don’t you run along and check with your close friends OpDeathEaters, Cannabis Cures Cancer, Drifloud, Butlincat or Peter Green. I’m sure they can clarify the rules on noms de plume for you 🙂
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“A message from the most high”, i wonder who that is Jake. Which member of your circle-jerk friends is the most high?
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My money’s on Weasel. He’s always high. (“Allegedly”)
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That’s lawfully suspected of being high.
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In my opinion, Angela, Mad Moo and others repeatedly putting up posts demanding to see someone’s “willy” is sexual harassment. Can any legal experts clarify whether this is the case?
Ditto comments frequently made re. the head teacher.
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Hypothetical question: is Kristie Sue capable of opening her gob without lying?
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“Kris Dacosta has followed a narrative set by two disgusting people and wont default from it even when presented with evidence that its a well known hoax engineered against an innocent man and a innocent community”
Read this blog and find out.
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I wonder if Sabine McNeil is suffering from the following condition, if she is, prison is certainly not the place for her, I do hope she has seen or will see someone from a mental health team.
Persecutory delusionsEdit
Main article: Persecutory delusion
Persecutory delusions are the most common type of delusions and involve the theme of being followed, harassed, cheated, poisoned or drugged, conspired against, spied on, attacked, or otherwise obstructed in the pursuit of goals. Persecutory delusions are a condition in which the affected person wrongly believes that they are being persecuted. Specifically, they have been defined as containing three central elements:[23][page needed] The individual thinks that:
harm is occurring, or is going to occur.the persecutor(s) has(have) the intention to cause harm.they are constantly being prejudged or profiled.
According to the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the most common form of delusions in schizophrenia, where the person believes they are “being tormented, followed, sabotaged, tricked, spied on, or ridiculed.”[24] In the DSM-IV-TR, persecutory delusions are the main feature of the persecutory type of delusional disorder. When the focus is to remedy some injustice by legal action, they are sometimes called “querulous paranoia”.[25]
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A real possibility.
Her many mentions of escaping Dresden when in reality if she was a baby it couldn’t have made any impression upon her. She rarely, if ever, discusses how her mother must have felt rather it’s always about her.
Her adoption of others who appear very similar in their paranoid belief that the world or the police are dedicated to destroying their lives- Scarf & Kirk. Kirk with his totally irrational belief that the Welsh police are out to get him and the illogical notion that individual coppers pick up this crusade & run with it over decades.
Women or parents who are obvious child abusers & liars as opposed to possibly 100s who have been perhaps treated unfairly by social services.
Sabine’s crusade seems to be all about her and child abuse is a hook to hang on her belief the world has deliberately set out to attack her because she is a “whistle blower” despite never having blown one whistle on anything really.
The fact she is incapable of accepting court decisions (even one she basically won) and her determination to continue her crusades via the internet.
Of course this is all amateur psychology and a condition like a Persecution Delusion probably cannot be treated in any meaningful way.
In a sense Sabine seems to have gone out of her way to make her life quite miserable because she’s tilting at windmills. Others like Bellend feed this condition and take advantage of it while Neelu for instance, being from another Galaxy exhibits no understanding of how life on Earth operates.
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You have broken that down much better than I could have done Sam,many thanks!
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My views may be unpopular, but I don’t think prison is the place for her, if she does suffer from a mental health problem, she should, in my opinion, be sent to a mental health facility. If she is sent to prison, her delusions will continue & will get worse.
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If you are making lengthy quotes from wikipedia you should really attribute it to them, for (a) the license of wikipedia requires attribution, and (b) wikipedia isn’t always that reliable
I don’t see why your views would be unpopular, I doubt anyone wants to see someone with a mental health issue not treated correctly. The court is quite capable of seeking a proper assessment of mental health and sending to a proper facility if required.
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Apologies for my mistake. I will find it again & post it.
As for why my views being unpopular, a lot of people may not agree with me & class Sabine as evil.
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Apologies for leaving the source out of my post.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion
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Unfortunately Daisy there is a huge shortage of places to deal with people with mental health issues and so they are usually sent to prison if they’ve broken the law. Sabine wouldn’t be the first person with mental health issues to go to prison and she won’t be the last. That’s presuming of course that she’s ‘mad not bad’ which i don’t believe she is. I think she is more bad than mad.
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Thank you Arthur, that is very unfortunate & sad for anyone going through the courts that do have mental health problems.
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There are prison psychologists surely. I think the sad truth for S is that she would be as miserable in prison as outside the nick. She’s also quite cunning and pretty smart which just complicates life, mainly for her.
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Sexual harassment is an everyday concept, not a legal one. The offence of harassment, ie an offence against the Protection Against Harassment Act consists of something pursuing a course of conduct—
(a) (1) A person must not pursue a course of conduct—
(a) which amounts to harassment of another, and
(b) which he knows or ought to know amounts to harassment of the other.
[
(1A) A person must not pursue a course of conduct—
(a) which involves harassment of two or more persons, and
(b) which he knows or ought to know involves harassment of those persons, and
(c) by which he intends to persuade any person (whether or not one of those mentioned above)—
(i) not to do something that he is entitled or required to do, or
(ii) to do something that he is not under any obligation to do.
which amounts to harassment of another, and
(b) which he knows or ought to know amounts to harassment of the other.
Or
pursuing a course of conduct—
(a) which involves harassment of two or more persons, and
(b) which he knows or ought to know involves harassment of those persons, and
(c) by which he intends to persuade any person (whether or not one of those mentioned above)—
(i) not to do something that he is entitled or required to do, or
(ii) to do something that he is not under any obligation to do.
There’s no definition of ‘harassment’ in the act so it bears its normal English meaning.
If the demands were made directly to the victims there would be a strong case for harassment, or if in a very accessible arena (local newspaper perhaps) but I’m not so sure about rantings on Facebook pages that most people don’t visit more than once if at all.
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Sorry that didn’t come out as planned, difficult on a phone bouncing around in a train. Short summary, probably not harassment if on obscure FB page but maybe if direct or in a very open forum.
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Are people in the UK less awake than our US counterparts, then? LOL
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Michelle Woodley seems a real charmer.
Advocates the extra-judicial killing of alleged terrorist suspects, tells people to get out of unions, insults parents with transgender kids, demands teachers have no personal opinions and teach children what it means to be British (ie: what she thinks it means) and among extreme right-wing ratbaggery uses FB to spruik some pretty dodgy “beauty” products telling young girls they can make big $$$$ (“I made $5000 last month & I only worked for 4 hours”) a claim somewhat dented by the fact she’s been making it for a few years.
In other words she’s the perfect pal for Kris Costa: nasty, opinionated, dodgy (“I made $5000..etc etc”) and is bound to aggressively scream she’s being “trolled” whilst ignoring the fact she’s joining in & given succor to those who harass and falsely accuse innocent people of vile crimes.
Oh yes- and promotes Space Cadet Cassie Crowhurst lol.
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“Demands teachers have no personal opinions”
Hmm. I’m not sure what to think about that.
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Wonder how long it will take her to break those bail conditions.
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Another illegal post reported to Farcebook:
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And another “Star” of Sabine’s ends in Jail – again for breaching and ignoring a restraining order
From Butlincats blog:
Saturday, 16 December 2017
MAURICE KIRK SENTENCED TO 2 YEARS IMPRISONMENT at CARDIFF CROWN COURT 14 Dec. 2017 + archive 16 Dec. 2017
MAURICE KIRK SENTENCED TO 2 YEARS IMPRISONMENT at CARDIFF CROWN COURT Thurs. 14 Dec. 2017
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Ooh, interesting!
Thanks, JW.
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Some of the scenes as aviators,air traffic control and ground crew celebrate the news.
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Another perfect match!
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I’m starting to think Angie won’t be happy until someone starves themself to death 😦
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No,rather than hunger striking as a form of protest,Angies prefers to stand out from the crowd by electing to stuff her face full of shit and smoke herself into an early grave,all at the tax payers expense.
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Whatever happened to Rupert’s pals in Rome who were on a hunger strike? Did they just fade away into little mounds of body fat on the pavement or throw in the towel and repair to the closest McDonalds?
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Angela just likes the drama and is hoping to get involved, probably fancies doing some “interviews” with people Archit Ssan knows.
I am however concerned that none of his so called fb friends are getting the Mental Health Authorities involved in this. I know he is over 18 but he’s definitely “not all there” by a long way.
It is ridiculous that this attention seeker is doing this so called Hunger Strike.
I’ve heard on the grapevine that he is drinking Vodka so it’s not exactly a true hunger strike, plus it is not being monitored as far as I’m aware.
Does the fake Journalist A P Disney know this “man” is a convicted woman beater and/or does she approve?
Personally Archit Ssan is not the kind of person I’d support once I knew his history. Foul being he is.
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A certain American loony’s blog and youtube channel no longer exist. I’m going somewhere to celebrate.
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Wahoo!! Have one for me too, Justin.
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I shared this news on Monday. Jusayin 😀
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/12/11/security-risk-belinda-and-sabine-and-other-peoples-money/#comment-90655
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This twat’s name has come up before, I believe:
Video link
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Abdul to the police officer:
“YOU ARE SHAKING WITH FUTURE EMOTIONAL HARM…YOU CAN FUCK OFF!” 😂
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and “I pay your taxes”..uhhh?
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That’s kind of him, lol. D’you think he’d pay mine too if I ask nicely?
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I believe this is the lowlife who’s been harassing our Babs for some time now. Good to see his undignified behaviour in this video. How kind of him to upload conclusive proof that he’s a prick.
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Yes CP well remembered, it is the very same Abdul Sattar aka “Chainsaw Man”.
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How long does Mad Moo think she can keep rampaging across the internet harassing, slandering and abusing this poor man before she’s arrested?
Flagged and reported.
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Yet again she states that people are guilty, something she used to insist she never does. She actually does it a lot.
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“Maybe you’re not very bright. Maybe you haven’t got very good advisers around you.”
No self-projection there, then.
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I can scarcely believe my ears – a woman who calls herself an anti-child abuse campaigner saying it was perfectly acceptable for Abe to (allegedly) threaten the children that if they lied to him, they’d go to prison for 25 years 😮
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What a disgusting piece of shit she really is. Do the police not care enough to arrest her?
All she does is lie. I thought it was Ella who attended the Tavistock institute for therapy, being a neglectful mother and all. What does doing a narration for a Haiti charity, have to do with anything. What a complete and utter dot joining fruitloop.
She’s sick in the head, still lying about the medical report. Has she learnt to read and use common sense, are is she too thick in the head.
Psychiatric ward. She still thinks RD runs this site, lmao. Throw her in jail.
Creepy bitch obsessed with other peoples children.
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Well said!
She also says towards the end that she’s never slandered, threatened or abused RD or any of the parents, teachers etc. or published people’s details. This is a blatant lie – she’s done nothing but for nigh on three years.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1MdkWkDvS_ZeoHa8Ye4q0jrlo9ADTlflv
She tells massive porkies about the contents of this blog too, which is why she’s still unable to back up any of her allegations with a single link or screenshot.
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Listening to a few minutes of her rants, reminds me why i don’t listen to her often. Any sane person knows it’s a hoax, any person with any knowledge of victims of abuse can tell it’s a hoax.
I ended up turning her off and listening to Alex Jones Live instead, that’s how bored I am lol.
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Yeah, I occasionally watch the One Show myself too 🙂
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Deborah so wants to be “important”.
Why doesn’t she campaign for the masses of children that have suffered CSA?
Nah she doesn’t do this as she’s yet another that wants to be the centre of attention, sigh!
Deborah talks a load of old crap to put it mildly.
Where’s her evidence that RD runs this blog or has all these sock puppets?
There just is none, so she is just wasting her time and everyone elses as once she spouts nonsense untruths everything else is just not credible.
The woman is seriously deluded and dangerous …
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Is Bellender allowed to talk about Hampstead?
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So this poor disabled woman that we’re all meant to feel sorry for jumped out of her seat and ran across the hall? Hmmm.
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“They have taken her passport and German ID so that she can no longer escape”.
Wont stop her giving it a go.
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Doesn’t Sabine have more than one passport anyway, so handing in one passport still leaves her one or more to use?
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*dich
*umbringt
*stärker
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So she’s been a “highly active online networker and communicator” since three years before the web was invented? Very impressive 😀
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“They have another think coming” 😀
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Belinda appears to be speculating on the outcome of Sabine’s trial. Is that not contempt of court?
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Yes, it is.
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Belinda “More evidence of CORRUPTION FROM THE STATE… If you’d like to donation…..”
Ere, Belinda, your missing you chance!
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Needs sticks to walk according to Mad Moo the Freak. “jumped up out of her seat and rushed across the visiting-hall”
Lol, bunch of lying, scamming, cheating Bastards. All of them.
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I refer my right honourable friend to the comment I made at 11:45 🙂
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