Amid speculation about the contents of Abraham Christie’s mobile phone, which was apparently lost, found again, then lost…and eventually wound up in the hands of the police, we have received a startling piece of information: at least some of the pictures found on the phone were of the young daughter of one of the teachers at Christ Church Primary School.
According to very reliable sources close to the case, Abe had been making a habit of covertly stalking children connected with the school, and snapped shots when and where he could.
This appears to have been part of Abe’s orchestrated campaign to terrorise and humiliate families associated with the school, the neighbourhood, and environs.
We’ve received no further information on the other possible contents of his phone, but we’ll update this story as we receive further news.
Well. I suppose this answers the question on everyone’s mind: “How low can Abe stoop?”
My heart goes out to the people he’s targetted. Just horrible.
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Well the Hoaxteaders will have some sort of rationalisation or justification for that.
If they don’t care that he physically abuses children, by admission, as documented in medical reports, as alleged by two of his victims and last but not least according to his criminal history they won’t care that he’s taking creep shots.
I’m sure that will get dressed up as him trying to save the children.
Photography in a public place probably isn’t illegal, but why would he do that? To release their images in the public domain perhaps as some of the 20 so-called special children and rape victims? This would be illegal. Or he’s just a pervy creep who doesn’t give a monkey’s about children? Or the harrassment of the alleged cult members?
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I’m going to go with your last guesses. 🙂
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I second that vote !
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Photography in a public place isn’t illegal; and I would hope it doesn’t become so. As I understand it there are rules that prevent you taking photographs on private property or of some one on private property using a telephoto lens. Most of the time these things are handled sensibly, but not always.
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No, it’s not illegal, but in the context of Abe’s record, as well as the nature of the Hampstead hoax, it’s decidedly creepy. I know I would strongly object if I had a child who was being photographed by Abe.
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CZ–I don’t think we’ve seen the depths of Abe’s behaviour yet. That’s just my guess.
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I bet he’s a Limbo champ of somewhere.
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OMG. I do hope these sources are reliable, EC.
I’d be hesitant to post without the proof..
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As reliable as we can get, Jake.
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Abe is beginning to look like a pervert of Savile dimensions. Photographing children while fantasising about shoving dildos up them, drawing pictures of what he imagines the school teachers and parents privates look like. All this psychological projection on to perfectly ordinary people. Really makes you feel sick! He is a nasty piece of work.
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Indeed.
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This wouldn’t be the first time Belinda has supported a paedophile in the name of protecting children. I wonder if Abe has compared notes with Brian Pead?
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Oh but he was stitched up you know! He did actually offer money for sex to someone he thought was 13, but it was research, he was denied the opportunity of defending himself, he meant to rescue her, he knew he was being led on, it was entrapment (a selection of his excuses).
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I find it astonishing that anyone actually still falls for his excuses.
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Someone commented a while ago about Belinda et al being linked to paedophiles and that the SRA nonsense just used as a distraction. Found out today that Cullinane also has form for defending the indefensible.
http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/two-jailed-making-court-recordings-5048274
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I’m not sure that is exactly fair, he hadn’t yet been convicted of the brutal murder of the young girl!
He may not have been aware of Castree’s previous conviction for a sexual offence against a young child.
Patrick Cullinane was wrong though, his “client” was found guilty. I hope he had proper legal representation for his trial.
More here
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2007/2682.html
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Fair point and of course ‘innocent until proven guilty’ must be upheld and everyone is entitled to representation. However, I do think there’s a lot more to many of the SRA believers than first appears. (Cullinane has been on the margins of the Hampstead case but his propensity towards irrational paranoid fantasy is equally suspect. As my old granny used to say ‘it’s them that’s got the most to hide who are the first to accuse others’. Or something like that. 😉
Anyway, this blog is quite informative and makes some illuminating points:
http://www.dysgenics.com/2014/04/10/children-murdered-molested-raped-by-ritual-abuse-victim-claimants-advocates/
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If he has actually done this, like I said before, people who think he’s uncovered a cult thousands of years old won’t care or even see anything untoward in his behaviour.
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True enough. They see everything through the lens of ‘we’re the heroes’.
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Grim stuff. Perhaps Neelu might explain tomorrow to all her friends what they see in him.
Tomorrow 22/09 at 1030 she is due at court 4 at Blackfriars Court : listed as T20150661 BERRY Neelu With a target referral trial date of 02/03/2016, presumably to a Crown Court due to the serious charges.
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Thanks, I was just thinking I ought to check when her next hearing was due. 🙂
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Wow, I think this is our very first ASCII art comment! 🙂
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Sorry about the crap text art. I just came across this. Do you think this case has got Brony confused?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10789633
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Hahaha! And it’s in Christchurch, NZ, as well! Far too many coincidences for her liking, I’m sure!
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I could image her not being able to distinguish one Christchurch from another. The lovely Charlotte had some problems caused by people having similar sounding names to each other – of course she decided to target both after it was pointed out to her.
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Well, they might be perfectly innocent, or they could be murdering cannibalistic cult members, right? We just don’t know! 😉
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It’ll be documenting the children who he believed were the 20 others I guess? The ones with tattoos?
If they are clothed then no further action will be taken, as pointed out, a crime has not been committed.
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http://theukdatabase.com/2012/05/04/alistair-stewart-barr/
– Another indirect link to the Hollie Greig case. Alistair Stewart was brought to police attention by Matt Quinn, who was a part-time lecturer at the same college. Quinn (an ex-cop himself) went over his college bosses heads and brought the guy’s odd behaviour (hanging around a primary school near the college) to the attention of his former Police colleagues. Stewart was jailed of course. But Quinn, having apparently rocked the boat at the college by going to the Police first rather than allowing them the opportunity to get rid of Stewart quietly, was later bullied out of his job for his troubles – so much for whistleblowing!
Anyway, I digress; Abe seems to have played copy-cat in relation to filming the kids “accounts” of abuse in a similar way to Malcolm Konrad-Ogilvy. I wonder if these pictures of other Hampstead kids were taken with the intention of PhotoShopping them in the same way Stewart did? – He having possibly also got that idea from some of the material surrounding Hollie Greig?
Again; just a thought. – And if he’s been photographing children on school/private premises, surely there is a problem there because they have a reasonable expectation of privacy? i.e. Those premises are not “public places”. Intent is also important too surely? He’s hardly likely to be able to paint a picture of himself as a social historian or artist is he? They’re not his friends’ kids. – So whilst there is no direct offence in taking pictures, surely they evidence a pattern of behaviour that amounts to harassment?
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Certainly in England photography is not illegal whether that be on public or private land. You can be asked to leave private premises if an objection by the land owner or their representative is made as that becomes trespass, but the act of photographing something or somebody is not illegal.
Photography from a public space of a private space is also not illegal, so be on guard for long lenses, CCTV cameras and drones!
Now if it was lewd or if you were in somebody’s face then a judge might take a view on that of course as you may cause alarm or distress, but I talking about simply taking photographs of people and places.
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It would depend on the circumstances, and if Abraham Christie was photographing these people, but that sort of thing is taken into account to decide if someone is harassing or stalking someone.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/a-change-to-the-protection-from-harassment-act-1997-introduction-of-two-new-specific-offences-of-stalking
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/stalking_and_harassment/
If I was one of the parents who has been named as alleged cult members, I would be very frightened if he was hanging round the school taking pictures of me or my children and/or following me or my children.
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Like other psychopaths, Abe’s crimes would have escalated, had he not been discovered and exposed. Goodness knows what the photo’s were for, apart from him salivating in fantasy planning. We can imagine the eventual acting out would have been a step up from what he did to P&Q. Chilling. I fear for Spanish children.
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Damn, no apostrophe on photos.
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That’s what I like about this blog. We always notice our own grammatical errors and apologise! We don’t need them pointed out by other people as we see our own first! Most of them are just quick typos anyway. 🙂
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I solemnly promise that I never judge our commenters when they make typos. 🙂
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The grammar Nazi is one of my pet hates. 🙂
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Is “Grammar Nazi” how kids refer to Sabine?
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lol..but there/they’re/their and your/you’re really do bug me when they are wrong and that’s one of MY pet hates! Just can’t help myself sometimes.. 🙂
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