Meanwhile, it’s all cloak and dagger intrigue over on Guidance 2222‘s channels, comrades.
Apparently, it’s not MI5 after him any more, it’s the KGB (who, er, were abolished 24 years ago). XD
So cannabis really does make you paranoid, then? I’d always thought that was an urban myth.
By the way, a fiver says the feller with the camera and the Russian accent is Igor Proskurov (one of Guidance’s own allies – at least he was until he saw Guidance’s video, haha).
https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/igor-proskurov/21/9a1/956
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7FD-Z9Ka8SmswISkPxaY-Q
Is that sound more recordings from inside the Courts? Court security need to know about this if it is.
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Let me get this straight. You believe you’re unmasking a Satanic baby-killing ring. You believe you’re exposing people who do horrific things to children and are basically serial killers. These people you’re on to are EVIL. But the guy filming you is the KGB…..
I’m puzzled.
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But he must be working for the (long defunct) KGB, because he has a Russian accent. What more proof do you need? ROFL!
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Suggests to me that 2222 is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic.
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Perhaps Ella and the Grandparents are KGB too 😉
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To catch the mouse, leave cheese, you need to bring code2222 to you, or know where he will be, then track him, to identify him.
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paranoia train boarding now!!!!
Mind the doors….
DING DING. ….!!!
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We know what happened the last time Russian spies were in London, radiation poisoning. Keep your eyes peeled for anyone that starts to have a Ready-Brek glow around them
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And is it just me or is Sabine a spit for Rosa Klebb?
Watch out for those toecaps!
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Are Ella & Abe really in Russia? I don’t think so. It’s pretty expensive and I’m not sure Abe would be allowed to stay very long with his record. Spain ? Morocco? Or is everyone hiding in Belinda’s basement? Hiding in plain sight.
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Any evidence that Belinda has actually left?
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Nah. She’s probably just keeping a low profile. Thought she could be staying with Angela in Ireland.
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Voice from behind Belinda’s cellar door: “Can we come out now Belinda? Are you there Belinda? … Belinda? … BELINDA!”
Meanwhile, in the first class compartment of an airliner, Belinda reclines her seat and orders another G&T from the cabin crew.
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I’m disgusted that the police haven’t done a proper investigation meself! We’ve been hearing about Belinda’s tunnels for ages. Why haven’t the coppers been down there. It’s a cover-up to protect the lizard people! Everyone knows that one of the tunnels leads to a portal to another dimension. Hoaxteders go in and come out and their thoughts are re-arranged. Explains it all.
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Maybe David Shayler, the second coming of Christ, has commanded them to lay off 😉
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He will have seduced them whilst in his “Delores Kane” gear.
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yes forgot Belinda is wealthy so she can afford to piss off until the heat dies down. I saw another post by Sabine saying the ‘abusers’ went to the pension people to have her payments stopped. But they stop automatically for anyone after 8 weeks outside the UK. She just cannot help lying about event he smallest detail.
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In fairness, though, we did grass her.
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2015/05/24/the-injunction-against-ella-and-sabine
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Ah, that’ll be Tracey Morris and her 4 lads who have all been hiding out in Bellender’s basement.
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They’re widely believed to be in Morocco, mate. Though I found it very odd in their interview when Abe used the phrase “here in the UK”. Also, there’s been a high number of blog views from Turkey out of the blue this week.
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Turkey? Interesting..haha maybe Jacco and Charlotte have relocated!
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Oh dear.
You all seem to have forgotten one thing whilst you pat each others back’s & almost appear to be gloating 🙂
Here’s comes the question that you seem to have all avoided.
Who did sexually abuse the children in the distant past?
from what I hear medical opinion backs that the children were sexually abused well before Abraham Christie was ever on the scence or in the childrens lives.
Any answers? ( I suspect not ).
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There is no evidence. If you refer to the two medical reports, they used a discredited method to diagnose sexual abuse, a case conference of many doctors about the case concluded that the method created a false-positive, and there was no sexual abuse
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Please provide those doctors who dispute the claims names & medical qualifications 🙂
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Here you go.
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/the-medical-report-qa
Now stop whining.
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You can always ask myself on my googlw+ page TheHelpfulTroll 🙂
Surely it’s not that difficult to do OR is this just an attempt to stifle the question?
Tut tut.
I am on no-ones side. You are all code to me.
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Google is your friend! I am sure you are capable enough of finding out.
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Just to help you out:
http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWFC/HCJ/2015/26.html&query=ZC14C00315&method=Boolean
I refer you to numbers 119 to 139 in the court judgement.
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The Hoaxteaders are convinced that a small amount of anal scarring is all the symptoms there would be if the children were anally raped by hundreds of people every week for years!
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One of the major causes of something such as an anal fissure is constipation.
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Anal-fissure/Pages/Introduction.aspx
Case studies in Africa of men anally raped hundreds of times over a period of time leaves them with multiple anal fissures, a constant foul-smelling discharge from their anus, and an inability to walk properly, a way of walking that people in the know can immediately guess as an individual who has suffered such a fate. The mental impact of multiple rapes would result in extensive PTSD. The children does not show any of such symptoms in their medical reports or the videos.
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Guardian newspaper reports in depth on the impact of multiple anal rape on its victims.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jul/17/the-rape-of-men
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I’ve just realised that where I’ve said “Here you go, it isn’t showing my link! I’ve added it in now, though.
https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/the-medical-report-qa
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Dr Hodes herself resiled from her initial findings from the two examinations. She was cross examined, and said:
Her oral evidence surrounding the importance of the physical sign found in P amounted to this – “It was there – clear – it is rarely seen … it is not diagnostic but is associated with anal abuse – part of the jigsaw.”
When confronted, in cross examination, with the evidence about Ms Draper’s treatment of the children with enemas, Dr Hodes did not pause before saying, “No, it does not affect my conclusions. It’s another possible cause of trauma.”
Those are just two examples of the problems with the supposed physical evidence of sexual abuse. But I know you have probably read the judgement already.
I know it really, really upsets people that a judge weighs up evidence and people can’t say any old nonesense in court and be believed. I know that people don’t understand that the evidence of an expert witness may be disregarded in part when it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. FWIW I think Dr Hodes did believe the children were abused, she just got demolished in the witness box and by her colleagues.
But what about child number three?
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Excellent answer, Tracey! Thanks 🙂
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Dr Hodes wanted to believe there was abuse because she was told there was. She lost objectivity and clung on to her story rather than admit she was mistaken. That is a serious error in her position and she should be removed from diagnosing abuse.
The judge practically tells you that Dr Hodes is trying to save her own bacon:
“The court must always be on guard against the over-dogmatic expert, the expert whose reputation or amour propre is at stake, or the expert who has developed a scientific prejudice. ”
I consider Dr Hodes to be an absolute disgrace to her profession, her lack of objectivity and insistence of defending her reputation could have put a man in jail.
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Hello thehelpfultroll
Are you sure you aren’t referring to Holly Greig there?
The only outstanding issue as far as I am aware is that the children said they had access to inappropriate content over the Internet, which is possibly a lack of supervision from their main carer, if the claim is true.
The peer reviewed medical evidence showed RAD in one child, which happens anyway without sexual abuse, for example constipation, or just naturally, plus it can be caused by enemas, which their mother gave them. It is widely discredited as evidence of sexual abuse on it’s own anyway.
Women as well as men can be perpetrators of sexual abuse. So follow that line of thinking all you like, but I’m certainly not going to go claiming their mother raped or sexually assaulted them them. The evidence isn’t there.
The medical evidence did show physical injuries, such as a burst eardrum, scratches and bruises. The burst eardrum was recorded in the initial medical as the result of a blow from the mother’s boyfriend. That finding survived peer review and cross examination of the expert/professional medical witness.
Although I am curious why everyone has forgotten child number three.
Yes, Ella has three children.
The eldest, half brother to the younger two, that the mother claims also has a cult father and stepmother, lives with his father as far as I am aware.
Sabine McNeill has met him.
No recordings from him though.
No campaigns.
No visits to the police station.
He’s in his teens. Is it possible he is not as pliable? I thought Ella might be just a little concerned that he’s living with a father who it is claimed kills babies and abuses kids. It seems she’s not bothered. No one is. Their new website is going to be freethehampstead2.
Poor lad, his mother is happy to leave him in the clutches of the cult.
What’s that all about?
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What about child number three?
Any answers? ( I suspect not ).
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You seem to have missed the question completely.
Here it si again…..Just take you’re time realing it.
fank
Who did sexually abuse the children in the distant past?
from what I hear medical opinion backs that the children were sexually abused well before Abraham Christie was ever on the scence or in the childrens lives.
Any answers? ( I suspect not ).
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@TheHelplessTroll
Your questions have been answered and there is no evidence that the children were sexually abused “in the distant past”.
Now run along and let the grown-ups talk.
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There is evidence according to the alleged doctors report of the children being sexually abused in the distant past before Abraham Christie was ever on the scene.
You clearly are avoiding a direct answer 🙂
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Scarlet, how much are Mossad paying you?
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What about child number three?
I’m being serious here. Why isn’t Ella bothered?
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No one has sexually abused the children …..go read the documents correctly. ..apply some common sense ..Wat h the videos you moron
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I actually do really want to know why no one seems to be that bothered about child number three. Not even his dearest mama.
It is almost as if even Ella doesn’t believe the allegations she’s banging on about.
Papakillsbabies website, but it should be papaskillbabies, freethehampstead2, but it should be freethehampstead2andthehertfordshire1
Any answers thehelpfultroll?
Hello?
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Or is it MI6?
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Yawn!
I seem to have hit a raw nereve with you LOL!!!!!!
Anyway back to the question you are desperate tyo avoid 🙂
Who did sexually abuse the children in the distant past?
from what I hear medical opinion backs that the children were sexually abused well before Abraham Christie was ever on the scence or in the childrens lives.
Any answers? ( I suspect not ).
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Yawn!!!
I clearly have touched a very eaw nerve with you beasties MUahahahaha.
Having trouble answeing the question?
I seem to have hit a raw nereve with you LOL!!!!!!
Anyway back to the question you are desperate tyo avoid 🙂
Who did sexually abuse the children in the distant past?
from what I hear medical opinion backs that the children were sexually abused well before Abraham Christie was ever on the scence or in the childrens lives.
Any answers?
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You missed the KGB out.
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Can I be the first – and apparently only – person to say good spot on the Igor connection, Scarlet. Nice detective work 🙂
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Oh dear.
Fancy blocking me for asking a question.
Not so keen on the truth eh?
lol.
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https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2015/08/22/musings-on-dr-hodes-discredited-medical-report
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The HelplessTroll clone seems to have not seen my comment and link to Ricky being annoyed at Ella about the enemas!
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Oh and 2222 turning against Igor doesn’t surprise me, that lot turn against each other all the time.. just wait until Abe and Ella back-stab him (which will no doubt happen eventually with so much paranoia flying around their camp.) What did surprise me was the mention of the defunct KGB. LOL!
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Well, get yourself over to that video thread. Guidance is sticking to his guns! You can’t see my comments, though, as the pussy’s blocked me.
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Could be Lynton, thats a more common name than clinton, just keep your options open. Notice in his latest effort he accuses someone at the scene of Sabine’s arrest of being from Hoaxtead, sounds as if it may be Sabine herself!! Not a lot shocks me but that would!
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Oh I’m with you already. We’re just chucking names out there to see if anything bites 🙂
I’m not convinced that Lynton is that common either, though, to be honest.
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Yeah, think I’ve been reading too much Mills and Boon, it’s usually the name of the fine young soldier back from the war . 😉
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For some reason I don’t even exist on bloody Google Minus! LOL.
Got your messages via El Coyote – please accept my apologies and THANKS! 😀 x
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Terrible innit, people that clone and impersonate people.
And block like pussies.
Naaaaaaaahahahahaha.
Do you like my lippy?
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You sound a little confused, mate. Would you like me to call someone for you?
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