Did Sabine and Neelu plot to kidnap the Hampstead children?

Yesterday MKD on YouTube drew our attention to a video which we must have overlooked back in April 2015—at least none of us remembered having seen it.

At that time, the Hampstead hoax was in its heyday, with YouTube awash in videos of RD’s children, along with interviews with Abraham Christie and Ella Draper. Weekly demonstrations were still taking place at Christ Church Hampstead, though the number of protestors had already begun to dwindle.

Sabine was in Germany at the time, having high-tailed it abroad when she was warned that the police were coming to see her about having released the videos online. She was giving Skype interviews to anyone who’d have her: Alfred Lambremont Webre, Tony Gosling, Richie Allen, you name it.

In the midst of all this, on or around 16 April, Sabine and Neelu had a Skype conversation in which they strategised about next steps. At one point, the conversation turned to the topic of how best to “rescue” the Hampstead children:

Neelu: If we accept that the police have actually been accused of raping the children at the primary schools, the social services have as well as Cafcass, as well as the head teacher and the teachers, and the priests. So we have a system, and the Hampstead parents, they’re very hostile, they’re not wanting to get to the bottom, to stop anything, they want to carry on, they want to carry on with the satanic rituals, the cannibalism of babies from all over the world. So what I would suggest is that we don’t need to rely, once we know that the whole system is part of the crimes against humanity, and babies and children being representative of humanity, that we can take away their authority to deal with anything, deny them the authority. And so if we were to seek our own remedies, I mean that was the first thing I would say, that children in foster care are in a state of emergency, because the whole structure of public service has collapsed in Hampstead, and therefore we can assume, collapsed all over the UK. So it’s a state of declaring a state of emergency in public service, and then taking the remedies, i.e. basically removing from public office all dishonourable, dishonouring public servants, and public services, and rescuing the children who have been kidnapped by the satanic forces via the social services or police services, the councils, and the schools and churches and Ofsted.

Sabine: That’s completely correct. I think…it is definitely worth trying, I think it’s definitely worth considering to gather support for such an initiative. Given the fact that we had 16,000 supporters within about a month for the petition at the time to just ask Barnet to return the children, and 300 signatures to get the petition back, maybe a new petition is the avenue to garner support, but we need to target the request, we have to formulate the request and we have to formulate the target. And we know that there is…well. Every organisation has always good guys, and ever since I started looking into this case, I got somebody involved who came up with this thought, we need “police against child abuse”. And I’ve in fact asked Ray Savage if he would look into that. And so of the police I think we should talk to him again, and ask him where he’s gotten to, and whether he can find good guys in the police who would be willing to go over and kidnap in quotes, back again out of the hands of the bad guys. See the police angle, that’s definitely a possibility, I can see that.

In other words, Neelu is saying that there are “dishonourable public servants” in the police force, and that the Hampstead children have been “kidnapped by the satanic forces”—the social services, police, councils, and so forth. In this instance, she is referring to the children having being taken into protective police custody and placed in foster care as “kidnapping”.

Sabine responds that they seem to have public support on their side at the moment, as their petition to have the children returned to their mother garnered 16,000 signatures. That petition was taken down, but the petition to have it replaced also seemed to attract some public attention. Then Sabine drops a bombshell: she has asked Ray Savage, a supporter who advertises himself as a retired police officer, to look into the possibility of finding “good guys in the police who would be willing to go over and kidnap (the children) back again out of the hands of the bad guys”.

By “bad guys”, Sabine is referring to the foster carers and Barnet social services, who took over care of the children after they’d been removed from Ella and Abe’s care. And while one interpretation is that she’s contemplating having the children returned in some sort of quasi-legal manner—by enlisting the help of a supposed retired police officer—a great many questions arise.

Was Ray Savage ever a cop?

For starters, Ray Savage may or may not have been a police officer at all.

He seems to offer different versions of his police career, depending upon who he’s speaking to: he told the protestors at Christ Church Hampstead that he was a retired police sergeant, but he told interviewer Sean Maguire that he was a “village bobby”. When speaking on the topic of “9/11 truth”, he morphed into a “former UK Counter Terrorism Officer”, while he also claims to have run the Heavy Mob anti-riot squad “breaking up fights between mods and rockers in 1960s Brighton. I saw the squad run by my supervisors and mentors first and I vowed to run it slightly differently, with compassion and tolerance, without any form of brutishness because there was no need for it”.

If the latter is the case, Mr Savage must have been a truly gifted young officer: the Brighton riots took place in 1964, but according to Mr Savage’s listing on Companies House, he was born in September 1947. Imagine being in charge of the Heavy Mob at age 17! Astonishing, really. And his career trajectory seems to have been both mercurial and inconsistent: one minute applying his compassion and tolerance on the rioters in Brighton, the next walking the beat for many years as a bobby in a Sussex town; then rocketing into the fields of intelligence and counter-terrorism! We’re surprised no one’s made a documentary of his extraordinary life.

And that doesn’t even begin to address his involvement in hawking MMS, aka bleach, as a miracle cure; on this occasion he seems to have somehow acquired an “Honourable” before his name.

All of which is to say that when Sabine suggests that Mr Savage get involved in “kidnapping” the children, she’s using the correct term. Even if it were possible to somehow trade the children between police services, suggesting that this be facilitated by someone who is at best a retired bobby and at worst a complete fantasist is simply ludicrous.

Do Sabine and Neelu know it’s illegal?

It’s clear from what Neelu says that she understands that what she’s suggesting is illegal: she talks about “taking away their authority” and seeking their own remedies on the basis that “the whole structure of public service has collapsed in Hampstead, and therefore we can assume, collapsed all over the UK”. In other words: it’s anarchy now, and we can do what we like.

Sabine agrees, and calculates how much public support they could expect for such a move; it’s clear that she’s been considering this for some time, as she says she has been considering it since she began looking into the case.

As commenter Ghost of Sam pointed out yesterday,

It’s no different to saying we’ll get the “good” soldiers to rebel and invade Parliament in a coup.

Claiming they will get the “good cops” is even more evidence they are conspiring to kidnap. They are deliberately- and Sabine has fully agreed with Neelu- saying they should seek out “good” cops (ie: ones who are prepared to disobey High Court orders and an injunction) to break the law and to aid in their plan.

This is proof that they are conspiring to break the law. It’s no longer speculation, this video is proof of their intent and state of mind.

It needs to be forwarded to the CPS for the prosecution. It demonstrates a mindset that believes a shocking act like kidnap is perfectly reasonable to this person.

Do not forget #pizzagate: each one of these lunatics promoting that matter share blame for the man who entered the pizza restaurant while families & children were there with a loaded gun and discharged it.

We have seen evidence on Facebook of the (deceased) woman wishing to plot and also arrange to kidnap these children. She was influenced by the main characters, who we all know, persistently pushing this hoax. When people advocate breaking the law we cannot know where it will end.

Don’t worry, GoS: we’ve already turned the material over to the correct authorities. We think it’s important evidence, and we hope they’ll find it useful.