IPCC: Did police interview other victims?

One of the ongoing complaints the Hoaxtead pushers have made about the police investigation in September 2014 is that none of the other supposed victims were interviewed. If they had been, this argument runs, they would have corroborated the story RD’s children told the police.

As we read through the report from the IPCC investigation, however, we came across this fascinating bit of information: IPCC-no other allegations 2016-06-22It’s true that none of the other children at Christ Church Primary School were interviewed by police.

They were, however, interviewed by social workers from Children and Social Care, as it was felt that this would be less traumatic for young children than sending police in to speak with them.

While the interviews were conducted in order to determine whether the so-called ‘special children’ at the school were in need of protection from the alleged cult, the social workers were also listening carefully for any further allegations that might corroborate what RD’s children were saying.

None of the children interviewed mentioned any concerns.

We can hear the Hoaxtead mob screaming now: “But RD’s children were super brave and honest, and told the truth even though they were afraid! They’re not like those other children!”

We would suggest that in fact, RD’s children differed from their peers in one important respect: they had been beaten, kicked, suffocated, and threatened into saying exactly what a pathological criminal wanted them to say. As soon as P and Q felt they were free from Abe & Ella’s influence, they said what they’d been wanting to say all along: the truth.

Whilst we have been aware for quite some time that some of ’20 special children’ had indeed been interviewed, out of respect for the innocent families that had suffered enough intrusion into their lives we have tried to refrain from placing them and their children in the spotlight.

We feel that those families, and particularly their children, need to recover from the harassment and false allegations they’ve suffered over the past year and a half. Their right to privacy and healing is greater than what the conspiraloons see as their right to know.

However, the IPCC report now confirms what we have known all along: the ’20 special children’ and their families were interviewed, and there was no corroboration of P and Q’s allegations.

Quelle surprise! Truth will come to light...at the length, the truth will out

38 thoughts on “IPCC: Did police interview other victims?

    • Wow, that is interesting – and shocking. It’s blatant harassment on Bellender’s part if it’s correct. Where did you hear it, JH? I’ve looked on her websites and YT channel and run various searches but can’t seem to find anything. Do you have a link?

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    • No legitimate PI – many of whom are former/freelance journalists or Police Officers will touch this sort of nonsense with a barge pole as they know the law and that they are subject to it!

      It’s the sort of thing fantasists such as Robert Green or Angela Power-Disney latch onto. One might imagine though that Belinda has some failed former police Clerk – who goes home and dresses up in the Sergeant’s uniform he pinched ‘one bit at a time’ – waiting in the wings.

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      • Agree with that. Know 3 PIs and one who is still working. They often know the law like coppers & lawyers and are well aware of not breaking it on behalf of a client.

        Really this just shows how evil Abraham Christie has been if amazingly stupid as well. Simply cannot comprehend Ella going along with this rubbish but weren’t the kids smart enough to realise their mum was in Christie’s grip?. Cannot understand a mother basically abandoning her children as she has done even if she believed it was all true. I know mums who would go to jail in behalf of their children.
        Wouldn’t you think the hoaxers would think likewise about Ella as they are always screeching about children being removed from parents?. Yet Ella has removed herself.

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      • Sadly, these conspiracy types will just weave any refusal by a PI into their narrative. The maker of Loose Change, Dylan Avery, hired a PI to investigate the death of Barry Jennings, a man trapped in tower 7 after WTC1 and 2 had collapsed. The PI came back to him and told him that she didn’t want to take on the case. Instead of understanding that she didn’t want to harass the family of a man that just died of leukaemia, he interpreted it as the ‘spooks’ had scared her off.

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        • Yes, and you can bet that when they find out that no other children reported any kind of cult activity or sexual abuse of any kind, they’ll claim a) they were in on it, or b) they were too terrorised to say anything. Because that’s how the alleged brain of the Hoaxtead pusher works.

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      • I’m trying to imagine the ‘one piece at a time’ Sergeant…for some reason, he looks a lot like that Savage fellow that Neelu and her friend Penny Pullen dredged up last year.

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        • Oddly enough EC quite a few folk – completely independently – form a similar mental image. Others picture a ‘mild mannered Janitor’ type… Of course, that could be a load of old Phooey. But it does seem odd that he’s not remembered other than from when he involved himself at ‘the coo’s tail’ in the Tetra debacle.

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          • Just looked that up.

            Oddly, and police absolutely love moaning about stuff like poor kit, I’ve never heard about radios killing them with microwaves.

            It’s delusional disorder or psychosomatic symptoms again isn’t it? There’s a place in the U.S. where people scared of various types of radiation and of microwaves can live. Though underground would probably be best, but some rocks are radioactive.

            They’re in chemtrail government is programming me with secret signals territory.

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        • I saw someone give an answer to why that was in a comments section under one of the videos of him, but I won’t repeat it publicly as I can’t substantiate it at the moment.

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          • Ray Savage pops up all over the place on the fringe of protest movements, but his obsession seems to be Police radios.

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  1. I know of a case where a child made an allegation – not sexual, but of abuse, something wild, seen on tv – to ambulance workers after he fainted with suspected meningitis. He was of an age where children mix dreams, fantasy and reality, which he himself suggested in hospital, ie of not being able to separate fantasy from reality, and then at home interview when a social worker and police person attended; this was followed up with all kinds of examinations, talks with the child, with and without parents, visit to the school by the social worker to talk to teachers, and again with him, on his own, in exactly the kind of setting described by the IPCC report, ie at his school, unannounced. So I can confirm that this is an approach taken by social services in these kinds of cases, and I must say, although very apprehensive, due to the person accused, later, when everything was resolved, and it was established, confirmed for what it had been, ie fantasy and illness mixed, I was very impressed by the thoroughness of the ‘investigation’. Say what you like about the British system, it sure beats most else in the world.

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    • It would have been part of a section 47 investigation to ascertain whether children are at immediate risk, which of course they could have been if the allegations were true. That can be joint or single agency and that agreement is made during a strategy call/meeting between children’s services and the police. Joint investigations are children’s services with the police, this was a single agency investigation undertaken by children’s services, outcomes would have been shared with the police. Other agency checks are also undertaken, with consent where possible*, and that would be with school and health generally.

      *Consent is possible in most circumstances but there are situations where it can increase risk for children, for example, if it would alert possible perpetrators.

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      • Thanks, Helen. That’s really useful information. Knowing that there are systems in place, and the way it all works, is really helpful to understanding what went on behind the scenes during the police investigation of P and Q’s allegations.

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    • and that is also the joy & beauty of children- that unrestrained imagination where fantasy can mix with reality.
      Abe tried to destroy that. So happy they are away from their tormentor.

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      • You and me both, Sam. He and Ella tried to steal their childhood, and they did get part, but I’m very happy to know that they were stopped.

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    • You’re right. If I were the parent of young children, I’d prefer that any allegations be fully investigated, rather than risk the possibility of my child being abused in some way that I didn’t know about. The system is far from perfect—we’ve talked about that here—but it does at least help in most cases.

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  2. It must be causing much gnashing of teeth to the self appointed touchline experts that their megaphone bleatings have been exposed and amplified publicly revealing the malicious vacuity of their campaign.A fools errand if ever there was one.
    Perhaps Neelu will save the day for them and successfully claim 500 trillion quid for being publicly embarrassed and having their feelings hurted. From the proceeds she may wish to consider erecting a statue of Elsie Garnett who clearly set the ball rolling back in the day 🙂

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    • LOL! I’m sure the Hoaxtead pushers are working feverishly to rearrange their arguments: the IPCC are now officially The Enemy, rather than the Grand Institution That Was Going To Save Us All. Ah well.

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  3. I believe it’s time for those people need to see this case for what it is a Hoax. These poor children who had to be questioned by social services over crazy allegations made. I don’t know how I would feel if that was my child. I don’t think I would be happy for someone to question my child on SRA abuse.

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    • Nor would I be, HS. I give the parents of Hampstead full marks for coping with the events of the past year and a half. None of us would like to experience what they’ve gone through. I think the Hoaxtead pushers will be surprised, though, at how tough it’s made this community. 🙂

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  4. It’s a good reminder that just because something may not be mentioned in some document or report that we the public have seen, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

    If Abraham is willing to let us see these facts which incriminate him further, it makes me wonder just how incriminating the facts are in the court witness transcripts that he feels the need to cover it up.

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    • You know, I think Abe is stupid enough that he just doesn’t realise how incriminating the IPCC report is. Then again, he didn’t really display it full-screen on his blog; he left a link, probably hoping that most people wouldn’t bother the click it…let alone download it to ensure it didn’t ‘go missing’. Ahem. 🙂

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  5. Thank you for clearing that up, Hopefully the nutter will realise that the investigation was done properly and start to remove the names of the innocent children that have been published all over the internet.

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  6. I expect a lot of them won’t want to admit that they were wrong in falling for for this hoax but they won’t change their ways. They will just stay quiet for a while until the next story to jump on comes along.

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    • Yes, if the HollieHoax is anything to go by, they’ll be quiet about it for a while, then start referring to it sadly as ‘a terrible case that was suppressed by the powers that be’. Ho hum.

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