Video share: What did the Hampstead children REALLY say?

It’s an article of faith amongst those who believe in the Hampstead SRA hoax that the two Hampstead children made a series of videos in which they talked about a Satanic cult that was run by their father, their teachers, parents at their school, social services, Cafcass, and various police officers.

In those videos, the children gave a detailed, accurate, and very specific account of what was done to them. Viewers were shocked at their ability to recite specific details of sexual and cult practices which no child could know about unless they had actually experienced it.

Right?

Maybe not.

In this video, we take a look at what the children actually said, how much detail they actually provided, and whether some of the things they described were even physically possible.

317 thoughts on “Video share: What did the Hampstead children REALLY say?

  1. Spot-on as always, EC! 👍🎯🏆

    The frequent misquoting and lies about what was said in these interviews is wince-inducing. Thank you for putting the truth out there.

    (It’s 6:46pm, Malcolm.)

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  2. As an old Aberdonian philosopher once said, “She’s gonna need antiseptic if she keeps licking his arse like that.”

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  3. Thank you for all you do at Hoaxtead! By the way I am sure Edward Ellis is at deaths door, poor mite. That phone call Neelu had with the social worker is worrying, she really is too far gone. Also I’m sure she can pay off her debts and doesn’t need benefits but her life is unraveling due to her mental health and I think her son is unwell too. Its seems like Neely’s family is suffering from generational dysfunction. Also if Edward William Ellis is the caretaker Prime Minister shouldn’t he be in Downing Street? LoL this is so sad, mental health have really failed to intervene in this mess. I have a sick feeling it will not end well this fiasco.

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  4. Also EC, Ella and Abe need to be brought to justice, the fact they are still pushing and promoting this hoax is disgusting. I’m glad the children are away from an unhealthy environment where they were abused to recite vulgarity. Justice is coming for these evil caregivers who abused defenseless children who they thankly didn’t completely ruin as they are doing great with their amazing dad who is taking care of them. Hoaxtead destroyers I am sure Hampstead residents and the victims love you guys too for always shining a light on those hellbent on spreading darkness by always speaking the truth and exposing the hoaxers. Well done. Keep going! Also EC please report the online harassment and threats you are receiving on Twitter as I am seeing it all play out and I am worried for you. I hope everyone is keeping safe as the Hampstead Hoaxers are obsessive and dangerous bunch. My goodness!

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  5. Actually, has anyone seen Elle lately, she seems to have gone quiet in my feed…
    Seems funny abes still pushing it since he and her split up, there’s no chance if if (big if indeed lol) she got them back, he still wouldn’t have access to them… which was what he wanted I suspect

    (and considering what he was coaching them with-I wouldn’t let a kid within a mile of him..)
    😦

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  6. Not sure if I should link to it (OK or not E.C.???) but I just watched the full BBC interview with the dad (the official BBC link), only ever seen short excerpts before

    Poor bugga, my heart goes out to him, glad he got them back and away from abe and ella
    😦

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  7. Well that’s very sad. Of course if Ellis did pass the blame on Hoaxtead will be weaved into the mix.
    The sheer madness of this whole scenario is just weird.
    They have “joined the dots” and somehow the Hampstead Hoax has become an integral part of Wanoa’s wave machine nonsense. Even to the point where someone now claims EC represents Big Oil and is campaigning to ban Wanoa’s plan to provide “fee energy”. Even then they ignore Wanoa’s plans to buy a private jet and fleets of tankers (what for?) and so on.

    The way they have just absorbed the sheer impracticality of his preposterous plans and fractured version of history. It’s opened my eyes as to how mass delusion actually can happen albeit it’s a very small bunch of people who inevitably fall out with each other. What with Lee Cant claiming the local Council are spending fortunes to erect scaffolding around his flat to drive him insane- each one has a tortured unique “targeting” episode.
    Madness.

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  8. As an old hand at cheap tabloid publicity can I advise this entrepreneur of the exciting (boring) plan to construct a “Moonscape” theme park on an artificial island off Brighton, that this isn’t the best publicity for his venture?.
    If it were me I’d be promoting the idea that not only have we (and visitors from other galaxies) been to the Moon many times but it is indeed hollow as David Icke claims with an exciting (dull & uninteresting) new theme park ride through the Centre Of The Moon where one can see all manner of Aliens who operate The Moon as an artificial satellite.
    I’m surprised This Mob haven’t seized upon that mad movie ‘Iron Sky’ as a documentary much like The Matrix.
    # Earth to Matt: do NOT tell anyone with a Russian background that Yuri Gagarin, one of the greatest Russian Heroes- is a fake if you value your good health.

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  9. We can’t really show that, unfortunately, but it has been posted here before, pre-court order. There’s also a copy in the archives which I recorded on the day.

    One thing I always found encouraging was the messages from viewers that Victoria read out after the interview. They were 100% rooting for the dad and sympathising with what he’d been through 🙂

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  10. Yeah, good points. And it’s not just his post above he’s rabid about the Moon-landing being fake and has not coped with the semicentennial celebrations.

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  11. Tom Baker’s links used to be the highlight of that show for me 🙂

    By the way, according to a very reliable source, Ugly Watchtower is our old psychostalker Heather Brown (aka Pru Halliwell).

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  12. Wasn’t sure myself, so I asked first lol
    Funny that they can keep it up (pre trial broadcast- on Tv) but we can’t link to it now…
    The legal system is weird at times…

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  13. Yes, I think I explained when you asked about the Google drive that pre-court order material was approved by Justice Cahill but she blocked all new material showing his face/name. It’s far from ideal but I think Cahill realised that the sheer volume of stuff that’s already out there would make it unrealistic to expect it all to come down (and unreasonable in the case of non-malicious channels such as the BBC?).

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  14. Re EWE. I think he hasn’t had medical help for about three weeks. If he was in desperate need of dialysis back then, he’s not going to be very well at all by now.

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  15. He is being a spectacle.

    There is a Morecombe & Wise joke about the man who fell into the glass vat during a tour of the optical factory, and made a spectacle of himself, but I shall refrain.

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  16. Mad movie? I’m an original crowdfunder of Iron Sky (and the sequel). I can assure you, it was pitched to us as a documentary. 😎

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  17. Here we have (who I believe to be) a complete twat, acknowledging for the first time that he doesn’t get sarcasm (or how to work out who people are):

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  18. Our very first visit to Australia as a family was in the 50s and my Dad took us all out to the countryside with clear skies to watch the USSR satellites pass over. 100,000s did likewise.
    Matt is a dill. I was so obsessed with the idea of space travel I’ve always kept my well thumbed copy of Laika’s ( first Earth creature is space) autobiography where she provided conclusive truth of space travel ( Russian dogs are pretty clever and can type).
    Taylor can borrow it if he likes.

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  19. What I don’t get is how we managed to land a red hot rocket on the Moon without melting all that cheese.
    And how come Armstrong never got any footage of the Clangers or the Soup Dragon? 🤔

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  20. Ironic given his bizarre anti-Spivey rant (“I’m the daddy”) some years ago, that he’s applying the same technique. Spivey proved that the Duke of Edinburgh is the late Jimmy Saville by putting the two pictures next to each other, altering the eyes, nose, mouth, and hair on one of them, until – hey presto – they looked the same!
    In this example, I can see clearly that apart from the ears, teeth, eyes, nose, and chin, Armstrong and Gagarin are identical. Which is good news, since anyone can apply the same technique, and so I resemble the young Hugh Jackman.

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  21. More like Matt Taylor operates at the level of a primary school child. He probably thinks “Who smelt it, dealt it!” is a valid argument.

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  22. Its just so sad they are all mentally ill Sam and even the meds aren’t working effectively it seems and the mental health professionals are unable to bring some normality into their lives to help them be stable. Its heartbreaking, more so for Hampstead victims.

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  23. She wouldn’t acknowledge anything was her fault. She would concoct a conspiracy and harass the medical staff who tried to save his life – and probably post photos of him in his coffin all over the internet.

    But, as far as we know Mr Ellis is still alive and I hope will make a recovery. It is a sad thing that so many of the hoaxers have had their lives cut short by the direct or indirect effects of mental illness and personality disorder.

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  24. Maybe Ella knows Steve that no matter how much she lies no sane person will believe her and it could possibly add more years to her sentence when she is captured. Abe however is an arrogant evil bully who is perverse and sick in the head. The day they are
    both brought to justice is a day to celebrate as justice has won.

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  25. Excerpts from Psycho Lady’s latest Hampstead hissy fit and death threat jamboree, broadcast 17.07.19. Enjoy 🙂

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  26. How can I break it to Danny gently?.
    The Moon, contrary to popular opinion is NOT made of cheese. I think you are confusing this with the upcoming popular money sharing scheme where we all will get $1M every month via Swissindo Cheese. Don’t ask me how- greater minds than I (Neelu) know the details.

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  27. “…whose son was literally thrown out head first from a moving ambulance driven by 2 lesbians.”

    Just a punt but I’m guessing that’s not entirely accurate 🤔

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  28. Lord, how typical of Neelu that she should help herself to someone else’s tragedy, rewrite it according to her own (homophobic it appears) obsessions and weave it into her desire to own houses without paying for them.

    The Inglis case is a tragic one – Thomas did fall or jump out of an ambulance which was taking him to hospital after he’d been injured in a fight and he was left it a persistent vegetative state. His poor mother killed him with an overdose of heroin, was convicted and served 3 years of a 5 year sentence.

    No tragedy too tragic that it isn’t grist to Neelu’s mill.

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  29. Malcolm Ogilvy’s gonna be particularly pissed off – he’s been promoting this dirty bastard like nobody’s business!

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  30. Plus Wedger, Veale, Maloney, Harvey, Esther Baker…
    There are going to be a lot of unhappy bunnies out there 🤭

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  31. Yes, the vast majority of sane people who watched that were moved by his plight. As usual, though, the conspiracy crowd simply saw it as further evidence of guilt. Because that is how conspiracy believers do.

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  32. Thanks, BL. I agree, it will be a completely avoidable tragedy if Edward Ellis dies because he’s been encouraged to avoid medical care. And yes, I think there seems to be a familial element to Neelu’s mental illness.

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  33. Please report the abuse aimed at you EC especially on Twitter as it is quite worrying as the conspiracy nuts are making serious allegations against you. Stay safe K.

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  34. To be honest, I haven’t been keeping track of what they’re saying about me. Those who do this sort of thing need to remember that it’s unwise to attack people with lies, when they can be taken down by the truth about themselves.

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  35. Yes, I’m looking forward to that day. The law grinds along slowly, but outcomes from trials like Sabine’s and Carl Beech’s make me confident that justice will (eventually) prevail.

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  36. They are both plagiarists.
    This guy has been doing it for years and started the whole thing. It makes amusing reading as he finds new discoveries all the time- that mainly everyone famous is played by actors.
    One of my favorites: The Queen is actually Betty White (well have you seen them in the same room together?).
    Now he’s found out that The King of Spain is really John Cleese.
    https://wellaware1.com

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  37. The funniest part is all those “brave” individuals on Twitter who accuse us of everything from child trafficking to cannibalism to wiping out the dinosaurs have all blocked us! Cluck cluck 😆

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  38. Yes, this is excellent news indeed. The jury deliberated for six hours after a 10-week trial. Apparently the court will be hearing victim impact statements this week, with sentencing scheduled for Friday. And as expected, the conspiracy believers have already started claiming it was a fit-up. 🙄

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  39. At 54:59 Devine offers to MMS to an elderly guy who he says who doesn’t look well.
    F*cking lowlife 😡

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  40. At 4 minutes, Neelu claims that when people who are “targeted individuals” or “whistleblowers” are announced dead on arrival at hospital, it means they’ve been “assassinated in the ambulance” 🤦‍♂️

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  41. OK, listen to what Neelu says at 5:55 and 7:02 tell me she’s not mad 🤦‍♂️

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  42. This one’s got the lot – devine signals, chemtrails, angels, orgonite… oh and apparently Eisenhower signed a treaty with the aliens in 1954 🙄

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  43. “They” are listening to my thoughts (via chemtrails). Yes, I think I know what that is. But Ramola D believes that “they” give “whistleblowers” cancer, so it’s a race to the bottom here.

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  44. She now accusing a child of trying to “prosecute her”?. She really is wicked. Thankfully those kids are at an age now where their looks will dramatically change as they rapidly grow into teenagers.

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  45. I’m sure he’s not dead and I recall somewhere he being exposed with his real name as not a former “banker” rather a serial con artist who committed a bank fraud.
    But hey on the Internet you can be anyone you want to be.
    (ed: look who’s talking!)

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  46. Sounds like Neelu’s persistent claims of “no fixed abode” fell on deaf ears. Also indicates not always as nutty as she seems- deliberately trying to avoid papers being served on her.

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  47. Such simplified thinking with This Mob with their persistent calls to various hospitals claiming un-named persons (John Paterson, John Wanoa) are not mad as a box of frogs.
    I think in another era they would have been plaguing Scotland Yard if they had managed to capture Jack The Ripper claiming: “he’s perfectly sane..he’s just a very naughty boy”.

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  48. I’m sure he’s not dead and I recall somewhere he being exposed with his real name as not a former “banker” rather a serial con artist who committed a bank fraud

    “Ronald Bernard” is also nazi lowlife vermin, because of course he is. Which is why Princess Garbage gravitates to his wee scam.

    http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/2017/08/ronald-bernard-b-joy-child-sacrifices-protocols-elders-zion/
    https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2018/05/10/fresh-start-foundation-worried-about-hoaxtead-research/#comment-104650

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  49. Cat Scot – another one supporting a convicted paedophile and fake CSA survivor. Anyone surprised?

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  50. There does seem to be a curious nexus between the self-proclaimed “Satan hunters” and those they support and defend.

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  51. ‘Your name says it all’ from someone who’s only two letters away from perhaps exposing (pun intended) their own sexual predilection.

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  52. Drinking game – listen to this interview and every time Thomas tells a porky, you have to take two sups. Hic. Burp. Sorry folks, need lie down 🤪

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  53. Sample quotes:

    “When the children went on holiday with their mum, they felt safe enough to tell her about it.”

    “The medical exam said these kids have been abused.”

    “The perpetrators went into hiding, they didn’t even defend themselves at all.”

    “Obviously in America I have Freedom of Speech, so I can say these things. They can’t stop me from doing that over here.”

    “It makes you wonder if the judge was paid off.”

    “The mother passed the polygraph test.”

    “You don’t see the other side putting up any defence.”

    “I recognise demonic presence and something showed up yesterday when I was doing my show.”

    And how’s this for a confession:

    “Sabine went to prison for doing exactly what I’m doing.”

    Thanks to Agent J for your help with these

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  54. Decades ago I had a bit of a run-in with a minor Thyseen family member in London. Nothing serious. A couple of years later I was in New York in a nightclub and a well known journalist pal pointed out the same person sitting at a table. As I recounted my experience he advised me that the name was Mud in New York because of it’s large Jewish population. I was still fairly naive about some aspects of history.

    And then I was amazed to read David Litchfield’s 2006 take-down of the war-time Thyseens who fled to Switzerland in ’39 claiming they were mortified having supported Hitler but nonetheless, lied about how they continued to run their empire from Zurich including supplying armaments to the Nazis and using slave labour : Jews. Poles and Russians.
    One ghastly incident involved the Great Aunt of the person I had met who hosted a party for Nazi & SS officials towards the end of the war and when the guests were pissed in the early hours, supplied them with guns to go and “have some sport” with the Jewish slave labourers. Apparently around 200 were killed while they left a few to bury the bodies but the just shot them as well afterwards.

    Of course one cannot blame the descendants for the actions of their dreadful ancestors although of course, Jews call the money they live off if gained through such terrible actions “blood money ” that will not bring joy in the end.
    And then a few years later I ran into Litchfield when visiting London and we had a long talk as he told me of the things he had uncovered which he hadn’t published: the decimation of the Rothschild family fortunes at the hands of the Nazis, the mass theft of art works (meanwhile the Thyseen family collected a huge art collection from Nazi plundered countries during 39-45) and how the Rothschilds never regained their full fortune.
    Someone has to be clever at making money. Why those like the Rothschilds who are have to also be demonised by This Mob is a mystery. But inevitably they miss the real villains from recent history.
    http://www.davidrllitchfield.com/category/the-thyssen-art-macabre/
    The Thyssen Art Macabre

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  55. What is striking is the confluence of stories. We know how much APD, Devine and Dunny get excited about their fabrications, reveling in bigger and more outlandish accusations every time. And then you read the BBC long read on Carl Beech, and it all makes sense.

    Beech, who nevertheless insisted most of his claims were true, was totally absorbed in his violent paedophile fantasies, imagining parts for people he knew, then changing their roles and adding in new characters as he went along.

    Prosecutors said his motivations were varied.

    Money was one.

    He also enjoyed the attention, with a supportive community of online followers, his media appearances, … all bolstering his sense of self importance.

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  56. Conflating Barbara Kahan OBE (1920-2000) the social worker and Barbara Kahan (born 1931) the lady who’s name is used as a temporary director for “shelf companies” again?

    I was involved with a Barbara Kahan shelf company a few years ago. A big construction firm went bust and a shelf company name was needed so that the workers could keep on and complete the job without running up huge debts and delays – very useful and legitimate idea.

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  57. A rather convoluted tale about Ronald Bernard- I had forgotten he had set up a “bank” asking for money and is apparently on the lecture circuit.
    Isn’t there a good book or NYT’s article in this: the fraudsters who inhabit the online “alternative” and “truther” media where the goal is to make money.
    How much money do these people actually make?
    David Icke has done well but did lose heaps on his million selling books when his US publisher decided to “bankrupt” themselves (ala D.Trump) meaning Icke never got his royalties.
    We know that even people involved in the Hampstead hoax – APD, Wanoa etc ask for money but do the really clever ones (Bernard) make a lot of money?.
    https://www.martinvrijland.nl/en/news-analyzes/Ronald-Bernard-embraces-a-good-actor-through-alternative-media/

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  58. I’ve been reading things but didn’t intend to comment today but I got a suggestion for a video dated today (23.7.19) by General Sands. I didn’t go right through it but she has the little girl’s (as associated with this hoax) face showing (not linking because I don’t know how to block the face).

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  59. Thanks, CAW. Yes, she has quite a few up. We’re aware of it and things are happening behind the scenes to hopefully get them taken down.

    I believe Sheva’s been on a reporting spree on there too.

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  60. What I can never work out about “chemtrails” is that the so-called elite breathe the same atmosphere as we lesser mortals so surely they would be in danger if “chemtrails” were true. I know there was a time some decades ago when planes were spraying a noxious sort of weedkiller (or pest killer?) with scant regard for workers on the land (many of them migrants) – I think in the USA. I wonder if there was some sort of confusion between the spraying on crops without regard to human life (which was a scandal) and contrails.

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  61. Yesterday in Ramola’s interview, Neelu said that all schoolteachers are involved in child trafficking. And now she’s saying this:

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  62. Well our government (UK) seems to be getting itself into a pickle rather well by itself without the FOTL twerps and any illegal overseas kings.

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  63. I’m surprised Matt Taylor hasn’t noticed that Thomas is actually just Rupert in an old Woolworth’s “Hippy wig”. 😉

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  64. She says they target talented kids. Yet they never took her own son. What does that tell you, Neelu? 🤭

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  65. Melanie’s son matches the description of a dog?
    Magic rays are sent through her house walls by a minibus that give her a dead leg but don’t have any effect on her son?

    Could this all be the ravings of a paranoid woman?

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  66. Er… nope.

    Feel free to check the source recording put up by both Abe and Kris Costa, Angie. And for feck’s sake, just for once, try to go 10 seconds without lying through your arse in order to protect a wanted child abuser!

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  67. I’m getting more and more convinced that APD is planning a “of course anyone could see I was mentally ill” defence.

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  68. I just want to know where the hell she came from and how a lot of these people involved seem to or state they know each other from the early-mid 90s ect. Heifer claims to know everyone but constantly screams ” I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOAXTEAD YOU EVIL (insert naughty c-word )”. Her defensiveness screams guilt, (not that I think she feels that) or she’s a lot more involved than she wants people to know. Like I said on a youtube vid I’m fairly new to this stuff and its the psyches of these freaks that amaze me.

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  69. This is about the mental health warrant for EWE last month. She asks for an investigation but then stymies it by refusing to give any details! Eventually she realises the problem she’s put herself into and gives her name: Neelu Berry, private investigator for the Crown and Lord Bishops and the Monarch Equity Trusts.

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  70. “I need him to stop the terrorism against me after my baby niece was raped in the mouth at St. George’s Hospital.”

    Nasty nasty Neelu 😡

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  71. Yes, though I doubt that will work for her, as she went off for treatment and came back loaded for bear rather than calmed down.

    (*loaded for bear: a Canadianism implying that someone is being unnecessarily pugilistic)

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  72. Our BoringTwat early warning system is being put through final stress tests in Oldcastle and will be available to the general public in time for Xmas. As a humanitarian gesture we will be airdropping emergency repellant supplies to the epicenter of the recent Lefkáda outbreak.

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  73. I guess it doesn’t occur to Andy that his travelogues about gorgeous Greece would be more interesting if his boat race didn’t feature in them 99% of the time. A land of sheer beauty and all Andy can do is give us a brief glimpse of some geese.

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  74. I’ve purchased several shelf companies over the years. It’s a perfectly lawful thing- companies set up cheaply so you don’t have to go through all the rigmarole.

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  75. You have to translate that into Wanoa King’s Park Bench Speak, as in he is raising £Billions worldwide when it’s actually the occasional £25 ergo: Wanoa has 25 supporters world-wide but even that figure is questionable as various factions fall out with each other.

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  76. Andy”Full Colon” Devine “Full Colon” is sending harassing emails to Wanoa’s hospital claiming they are denying his blood pressure treatment.
    How he could know what treatment Wanoa is getting is a mystery but This Mob seem ignorant to the fact shrinks are also medical doctors and will treat their patients for physical and mental ailments at the same time.

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  77. Some recent additions to the Hoaxtead Book of Fruitcake Quotes:

    “They’re protecting the children from getting justice”
    “According to him, I’m a conducted paedophile”
    “The detractors are like a mosquito. No one believes them”
    “I’m the fittest 69-year-old I’ve ever seen or ever met”
    “Under what grounds?”
    “You really are quite backwards”
    “19 years and still fighting fir justice”
    “I’ll give you a breakdown in a minute, Angela”
    “Let’s look him up on the bayleaf register”
    “There is a world war every hundred years”

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  78. Given they keep on about satanism and they are doing God’s work (who basically doesn’t exist and is a false construct but whatever), he quotes Pulp Fiction and not the actual bible passage of “And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.”

    Clearly Jules Winnfield > God

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  79. 10:04 – “My wife is out working to keep me here, to keep me at doing what I’m doing.”

    So Heather’s the breadwinner? He’s buggered when she eventually packs up and leaves him, then.

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  80. Neelu may well be mentally ill as well as being a complete garbage person.* But she seems to have chosen her ‘delusions’, the way they
    (1) feed her preening, entitled, self-regarding sense of self-importance.
    (2) Allow her to engage in sick sexual fantasies.
    (3) Help her to persuade the morons around her to commit suicide by medical non-treatment.

    She also seems to be well-attuned with events in the real world (in order to co-opt other people’s tragedies and weave them into those ‘delusions’).

    * “Complete garbage person” is not really a term in psychology.

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  81. 15:37 – “Just remember – he who smiles the laugh, he who laughs the last will be last and laugh the longest, like.”

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  82. Her problem is that she’s Barbara ‘Babs’ Collier, a notorious shit-stirrer who plays both sides off against each other and is obsessed with slandering people (and their families) and desperately trying to dox them. She’s been trying to find crap like this to fill her days since Eddieisok dumped her.

    Check out this particularly nasty one from her:

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  83. “He who laughs the last will be the last”. That reminds me of the New Statesman competition for obvious proverbs to match the (apparently genuine) Ghanaian proverb “never rub bottoms with a porcupine”. Mr Colon-Devine’s is reminiscent of one of the entries: “he digs deepest who deepest digs”.

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  84. Thank you GPS. As an ex Uni Physics lecturer, I had no idea about this use of Quantum ! Am I the only one who thinks its a bit bonkers – legal docs seem to have been drawn up without it for many years?
    “Full Colon Andrew Full Colon Devine” seems to ‘hate’ legal, medical speak as its ‘too complicated’ and ‘designed to exclude’ people like him, but then advocates this Quantum stuff

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  85. This may have been mentioned previously (I haven’t been back through every thread that has appeared on this site) but I came across something where John Wanoa was discussed on a forum in 2013 – so six years ago. https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=35729.30 I think at that time he wanted Hoa hakononia (my spelling may be off) returned from the British Museum. Does Easter Island come under the suzerainty of New Zealand?

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  86. I read through the cooked and bombed thread which was quite funny in parts. (I know – I should get out more, don’t all shout at once). However I did notice that Kingy had issued a “warrant” for Queen Elizabeth II’s arrest back circa 2014 and she’s still on the throne. How many warrants has he issued over the years?

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  87. It’s Sovereign Citizen/Freeman of the Land rubbish. Hoaxtead concentrates understandably on the fake satanic narrative and Quatloos on the Freeman stupidity. There is a big crossover of morons which makes it complex to document on one site or the other. I’d suggest reading both.

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  88. Don’t worry if it seems complicated at first. This 9-and-a-half-hour lecture from the bloke who invented it should get you started 😆

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  89. I’m shocked, just shocked that a person who has constantly proclaimed his antisemitism, threatened people with wood chippers and been convicted of contempt of court would have his account terminated. What has this world become when you can’t shout “fire” in a crowded cinema? 🤣🤣🤣

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  90. Here’s an example of it in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTwMAgs4_ZU i.e. defendant speaking quantum grammar gibberish and getting convicted. As ever the judge is very patient. Understatements of the year from him “I don’t quite follow that.” and, “I don’t know if that was an answer or not…” The comments on YouTube are quite funny.

    BTW I had to paste the link into IE, Firefox (sensible browser) wouldn’t have it.

    I’ve spent nearly 40 years drafting legal stuff and I can assure you quantum grammar is utter drivel. If you look at any legal document, e.g. your mortgage, or an act of Parliament, you’ll see it uses normal grammar. The specific WORDS may be difficult as they have a technical meaning, but the grammar and punctuation is the everyday language. In the YouTube, at 23:00 the judge gives a statutory warning; it’s a little complicated but it is normal language with not a hyphen or tilde in earshot.

    Use of the colon in your name is related to the fotler strawman idea – that you are divided into a legal person (strawman) who has to pay the bills and obey the law, and the flesh and blood person, who can enjoy the house, use the electricity, drive on the roads etc, but doesn’t have to obey the law. And you can split the two, so continue to enjoy the benefits without any legal liability. Quantum grammar says you can separate yourself by using a colon. So when Andy Devine calls himself Andy Colon Devine Colon, he is not indicating what he is full of, but asserting that he has no legal liability for anything.

    There is a Wikipedia page about it under David Wynn Miiler with some examples and a list of wins using this method. (Spoiler alert)

    There aren’t any.

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  91. Yeh sure the people of NZ who were united after the Mosque murders are going to unite for a bloke who says it was a “false flag”. I suspect Wanoa’s legal woes are just beginning\

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  92. I love it when these rogues go the election for public office route. They always get humiliated with a handful of votes. Not mentioning names but the words Matt and Taylor come to mind.

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  93. No doubt she’ll file like the one she did from Kevin Annett and his “Brussels court”. Crumpled it up and flicked it to her Corgis to rip apart while she had afternoon tea.

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  94. Andy “Colonic Irrigation” Devine rings NZ police from Greece about John Wanoa and says “my friend is being killed right in front of my eyes”.
    And he wonders why they won’t call him back.

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  95. Oh dear, she’s wriggled out of her straitjacket and is on the loose again (and telling big fat stinking lies about the Hampstead father as usual).

    Seriously, why does he keep getting the credit for EC’s hard work? 😆

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  96. “Karen Irving – social worker with a history of covering up child abuse”

    Er, really Cat? I’d check your info’ source on that one, luv. (And grab yourself one of those QEG gadgets while you’re up there)

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  97. Wanoa is probably having the time of his life after being homeless. Also the drugs they’d have him on would make him feel ‘happy’. Warm bed and good food and probably plenty of other patients to talk to.
    Plus he has contact with his billion “partners” around the world despite their bizarre claims as Andy just made that Wanoa was “disappeared” via the back door even though the whole bloody world knows where he is.
    I reckon he’ll actually be reluctant to leave especially as he would have to face questions about his pension which will take ages to sort out. As it is social services will probably even try and organise somewhere for him to live once he is discharged.
    Wanoa isn’t a fool- he would know that he’s in a good wicket at the moment and will milk it for all it’s worth playing both sides against each other- his “partners” and the hospital.
    Photos of an earlier Wanoa have surfaced and it seems he had regular jobs and businesses. A real estate agent at one stage and then his own limo hire service where he says he had 2 limos which don’t come cheap. Looks like he has been on an ever downward spiral since the late 1980s as his head became filled with bizarre plots and plans.
    ## And just reported his younger brother’s YT video where he demands HM The Queen be killed.

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  98. He did indeed, WW. He’s made several videos from his hospital bed, apparently in rude health, smiling away, tucking into some decent food and as you rightly say, actually stating that he’s happy where he is. For some reason, however, his so-called “friends” Devine, Praterson, Kaley and the Yippy mob seem to think he’s much better off living in a car park and cooking rancid fish in the boot of his car.

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  99. How could (redacted) “admit” he owns Hoaxtead when (redacted) has never made a comment on here and I know does not have anything to do with it?.
    Arthur Katoul was sectioned for making threats against numerous people in Australia.
    Hampstead was a minor part of his life.
    Both times he reached out to police for help as he was spinning out of control. It’s not uncommon. In his last episode there was footage of him talking to police who were re-assuring him they would take care of him.
    # One complaint of hapless police officers everywhere now is that have become de facto mental health workers which consumes so much of their time.
    APD and crew don’t give a damn about Arthur or any others as they can’t be bothered to know the facts. They are just sideline characters in their endless scenarios to be used and discarded when no longer useful.

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  100. That claim has come straight out of Cat Scot’s drunken arse. And naturally her lapdogs Malky the Alky and Angie ‘Two Sips’ Power-Disney have lapped it up. Her reasoning hinges on the bizarre notion that almost everyone who comments on here is the dad in disguise. You, me, Steved, Jake Blake, Sage, TNiedermeier, Arthur Pint… we’ve all been ‘accused’ of being him recently, lol. (I say ‘accused’ but I actually find it quite flattering.)

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  101. Nice of Abe to pop up and prove my point! Here he is, two minutes ago, accusing Lizzy Borden of being the Hampstead father. I do wish these fuckwits would make up their minds 😆

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  102. Devine’s been harassing the NZ cops again 🙄🤦‍♂️🙄

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  103. Devine’s another one who seems to think he has medical and psychiatric qualifications.

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  104. Note Mr Colon-Devine couldn’t bring himself to say whom “they” conventionally came for first.

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  105. “Patient Wanoa has been here a while and he’s not getting any better. Let’s release him into the custody of his friends and free up a bed for someone who might benefit from it.”

    “Wanoa’s friends are these gibbering internet crazies and grifters.”

    “…OK, we’re stuck with him for a while.”

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  106. “Aside from cheerful letters and cards, the best support we can give Melanie at the moment is to also be reasonable and measured in all our online reports and posts. This encourages and helps those good people in the system who are working hard to help, and helps Melanie as well.”

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  107. I have been chuckling from the sideline at the slowly building fury displayed by Andy Pandy and the Pavement Taster et al because a foreign sovereign nation refuses to bow down to the demands of this Spivey of loonies, that an NZ citizen under the care of the NZ Authorities be immediately released ” or else…. “. Or else what?
    I am happy to see that King John is getting the care and treatment he needs. For the record I was one who alerted the NZ Authorities to His Majesty s threats to Muslims and provided numerous links to support my information. Joanne Sollis cannot take all the credit! I also notified the UK Authorities regarding the Pavement Tasters threats to have people mulched and the fact that he said he knew of two killings but had not reported this to the Police. I both cases I did suggest that some sort of mental illness was contributing to their paranoia. I feel better now….confession is good for the soul!

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  108. You have been a busy bee.
    So it wasn’t a purple-haired obese, lesbian, transgender, gay Big Oil magnate, Freemason Rothschild family member, acting upon orders of George Soros and Mossad?.
    Still, I think I’d should be given some credit. As Junior Mop Assistant and part-time caretaker at the abandoned Palmer St, Westminster GCHQ HQ I’ve been talking in the hallways and loos (to no-one in particular) knowing the place was bugged in the hope I’d get the message out.
    I’ve also been asking if someone could please free me as they locked the doors months ago and forgot I was here. 😟😟😟

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  109. But Sam, as a ghost (of some distinction, one might add), could you not just float through the dunny door? 🤔

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  110. Ahem, could you not refer to us as ghosts please. The preferred PC term is “post-existence supernatural entities”. Thank you

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  111. You’re right, Millie. I apologise to you, Sam and any other members of the gravity-challenged community whom I might have offended.

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  112. 22:56 – “The law states that treason is hangable.”

    No Andy, it does not. How many more times do you need to be told?

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  113. Sabbatean Frankists anyone…?
    (What was that someone was saying the other day about Angie’s constantly changing narrative? 🤔)

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  114. Yet more desperation from Matt Taylor. Before the end of the year he’ll be walking round the town centre naked and painted blue shouting “NOTICE ME!” – no one will pay any attention.

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  115. What I don’t get is why would a supposedly all powerful Jewish cult be doing slumming it in a Church of England basement, using DHL and hiring out the local McDonalds deep fat fryers?

    Like all conspiracies it collapses in the presence of at least two brain cells.

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  116. Correct Owl. I know I mentioned that I’d read something under a clip of a song where a musical Rabbi was taking the micky out of the Protocols of Zion. https://youtu.be/7XrRyqses5U Some of the comments under the video are pretty bat fertiliser crazy. Someone had pointed out that even Goebbels had said the “protocols” were fake but people who want to believe something will believe it I think. (Not that the “protocols” has anything to do with the Hampstead Hoax).

    Also when people say that the children couldn’t have learned a script how do they account for child actors – if primary school children couldn’t learn anything by heart they would never learn songs, poems or parts for school plays. (And I remember having to recite the dread “times tables”).

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  117. Angela Power Disney, of course, supports Carl Beech because she “could hear the truth, in his words”. I would add the video link but she talks about the father in the Hampstead case so i’m not sure if i should do.

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  118. Great news about Carl Beech, he deserves every single one of the years he has been sentenced to for all the pain he has caused innocent people and their families. Of course, the fruitloops are supporting the convicted paedophile Beech because they believe he is the victim of a government cover-up.

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  119. Yes, and she would feel a certain sympathy towards a fellow traveller, I’m sure. After all, she modelled many of her false allegations against family members and others on Beech’s lies.

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  120. And there she is, bang on cue. I won’t link the video, as it names children and protected witnesses, but basically Angie’s just gone off on one again 🙄

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  121. Attacks the Hampstead dad and Karen at 3:26, just after describing herself and an “MK Ultra superspy”.

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  122. There’s quite a lot about Hampstead in this one and she mentions the dad again and also names the kids.

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  123. 7:08 – “The only fear I have… I do have the possibility of a trial hanging over my head at the hands of [Hampstead dad]… And if we look at history, that doesn’t look good. But I’m not looking at history, I’m looking at God. Whose report are you gonna believe?” 🙄

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  124. I won’t go into specifics here but Angie’s been surreptitiously sharing the names and addresses of Hampstead parents, kids, teachers etc. 😡

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  125. 11:45 – “Christine Ann Sands have recordings of wailing and screaming from the basement of Hampstead Christ Church, very similar to the recordings of comet Ping Pong, and the recording of allegedly John Podesta torturing a child.”

    Er, no she doesn’t, Angie. That was debunked 4 years ago. And the Comet Ping Pong claim is crap too.

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  126. It’s for skipping bail, being in possession of images, recording children in his toilet, as well as the counts he was found guilty off in the Newcastle trial. As a former nurse and person in the CQC there could also be aggravation for being in a position of trust. I think we need to wait for the sentencing comments to see how much weight was given to each offence.

    Again with the lack of brain cells among his supporters. HE PLED GUILTY TO POSSESSION AND FILMING!!! He would be facing a lengthy sentence anyway.

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  127. 17:39 – “Himself and John Paterson were arrested simultaneously – one in London, one in new Zealand – and sectioned against their will, without consent and without group grounds, probably at the instigation of Hoaxtead, which [Hampstead dad] just admitted, in public, that he co-runs with Karen irving.”

    Er… nope. Doesn’t Angie ever get tiered of lying through her drunken arse? 🙄🤦‍♂️🙄

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  128. If anyone’s looking for another long read this is good.

    https://quillette.com/2019/07/25/the-many-lies-of-carl-beech/

    This particularly caught the eye:

    One of Beech’s methods was to seize upon internet rumours and to pretend the same thing had happened to him. At other times, he appropriated the real suffering of others for his own ends. Andi Lavery, for example, who had been appallingly abused at a Catholic boarding school, was telephoned by Beech, who tried, as Lavery put it, “to access my memories and try to use my truth and the horrors of my childhood to further his own malodorous ends.” His impression of Beech was blunt: “He is a psychopath.” For his refusal to join the online cult of #IbelieveNick, Lavery was then subjected, like others who publicly doubted Beech, to a tsunami of abuse.

    You can see the modus operanti of the usual suspects here. Muddying up the waters with their bogus and easily debunked garbage, attacking non believers of their trash but creating a void where those who are actual victims find their voices drowned out in the sea of nonsense.

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  129. A surprisingly measured and sensible piece by UK Column and I hope they’re not made to regret it by the people who have previously helped themselves to Miss Shaw’s life. Mr Gerrish also sensibly points out that sending batshit crazy messages to the MH authorities isn’t the best way to persuade them that the patient could be safely released into the community. Again, I fear this wise counsel is not the sort of thing all of his audience will want to hear.

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  130. 39:16 – “Boris has a brother Leo with children in school in North London, which merits looking into the Hampstead case.”

    God, she’s nasty 😮

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  131. I want to know why a Super Soldier can’t change the battery in the smoke detector. It’s been beeping for ages.

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  132. Agreed, though I’m struggling to overlook that it was Gerrish who stirred up a lot of that crap in the first place.

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  133. I am still yet to see in Cat’s post where the Hampstead dad admits to co-running Hoaxtead Research (he doesn’t)

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  134. Gawd..now there is a woman who appears to be suffering from severe depression. And she goes and makes videos!. Is Jefferey Epstein being lined up to be the USA’s Jimmy Savile.. the Devil Incarnate?

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  135. I figure it’s just the end of the beginning of this whole scenario. Knives are out (figuratively of course) for many who encouraged ‘Nick’ including not just that website but the backers of it as well.
    I reckon Beech’s victims would have a pretty good case to sue them for compensation- thinking of poor old Harvey Proctor as an example.

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  136. You can see the modus operandi of the usual suspects here. Muddying up the waters with their bogus and easily debunked garbage, attacking non believers of their trash but creating a void where those who are actual victims find their voices drowned out in the sea of nonsense.

    Yes, absolutely right: while the hoaxers accuse us of attempting to discredit real child sex abuse survivors’ stories, in fact their own tactics seem custom-built to do just that. I have lost count of the number of survivors whose experiences have been ignored an/or minimised by the antics of these people, who care for nothing but promoting their own foul agendas.

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  137. Said it before, and I’ll say it again…

    There seems to be a repeating pattern of some of these ‘hoaxers’ promoting easily disproven ‘satanic child sex abuse’ claims on one hand, and hanging out with known child sex offenders on the other hand…
    Almost as if they were ‘deliberately’ trying to discredit anyone coming forward with legitimate claims…

    I would hate to think that this was the case…

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  138. There seems to be a repeating pattern of some of these ‘hoaxers’ promoting easily disproven ‘satanic child sex abuse’ claims on one hand, and hanging out with known child sex offenders on the other hand…

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  139. Apologies, mucked up the post just now so sorry for any duplicates
    “There seems to be a repeating pattern of some of these ‘hoaxers’ promoting easily disproven ‘satanic child sex abuse’ claims on one hand, and hanging out with known child sex offenders on the other hand…
    Almost as if they were ‘deliberately’ trying to discredit anyone coming forward with legitimate claims…”

    I’ve noticed (as a not professional anything) that once people get stuck in a conspiratorial mindset they’d rather have warm bodies promoting it than bother to care about those bodies’ character.
    And since conspiratorial thinking tends to split people into three groups; Us, Them & the masses (or Sheeple). So all the person has to do is blame it on the ‘Them’ and it was all a stitch up to silence the Truth and they have instant credibility,

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  140. I would question your methods somewhat.
    Also, some boys, especially if they have been sexually ‘active’/stimulated regularly, can produce a penile discharge as young as 8. It would not contain sperm though, until the onset of puberty.

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  141. I have heard of this happening, but I would question whether the discharge could be described as “white stuff”. I would also question why, when asked how much he “ejaculated”, the boy indicated with his hands that it was about the volume of a litre bottle.

    This sounds to me much more like “guessing at the right answer” than “describing a lived experience”.

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  142. Yes, I can understand the discrepancies. I also understand abused and manipulated children very well.
    I have pondered on this case since the first videos emerged but don’t have enough information about the legal proceedings.
    Nevertheless I can see that something is terribly wrong here for those poor kids. I recently saw a couple of pictures of them with their father.
    Im also wondering where I can find more info on any investigations into the supposed satanic cult?
    Lastly, the drug may have been Ket, and it really is irrelevant how it was ingested. Many just sniff a little pile off the wrist and it can make you sneeze. These are technicalities that are an important part of analysis, but the correct info and further possibilities need to be there as a basis.
    I was myself, concerned with the leading questions in the police interviews and the lack of a guardian in the room with the children.

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  143. They are called appropriate adults, not guardians (who could be the one accused of abuse) and they are required when a child or vulnerable adult is being investigated for criminal offences.

    So, I don’t see why you are concerned because it is totally normal.

    In any case, all an appropriate adult could do is sit and listen, perhaps suggest breaks, remind interviewing officer of meds, communication problems, tell child their rights.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/appropriate-adults-guide-for-youth-justice-professionals?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImPmh7KvZ5AIVB5zVCh3QJwbWEAAYASAAEgJ_3_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

    Leading questions doesn’t mean the whole interview gets binned, but should be avoided. Special measures for children could include an intermediary, if necessary, but they are not required.

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/legal_guidance/best_evidence_in_criminal_proceedings.pdf

    Something else, Abraham Christie’s questioning style follows zero of the interview guidelines.

    The supposed satanic (word is actually never used) cult is all the people who Ella Draper could name which weirdly includes all the people who pissed her off, from teachers who reported her to social services, the neighbour who reported her to social services, the social workers who investigated her when she was reported to social services, the police who investigated the claims to social services, the people who are attached to the court who considered the social services report and spoke to the children, people who looked at her funny, you get the idea. No one has ever said it has a name, religious text, guru, or anything.

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  144. The children were tested for drugs, the only one evidence was found for was cannabis, which is exactly what Abraham Christie, the mother’s ex boyfriend, is obsessed with.

    I cannot prove that ketamine was tested for, you can’t prove it wasn’t tested for.

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