Yesterday morning Thomas Dunn got his arse handed to him on a platter. There really is no other way to describe this YouTube video interview conducted by “Hellbound Heathen”.
From the start, it was clear that Dunn’s knowledge of the particulars of the case was very sketchy.
Although Hellbound Heathen said he’d only recently read into the matter, having watched the children’s videos and read the High Court judgment, he nevertheless ran circles around Dunn…in a calm, polite, and measured way, but his questions were very much to the point. Dunn’s answers, not so much.
Asked to cite evidence to justify his assertions that Satanic ritual abuse was happening in Hampstead, Dunn’s standard response was, “I don’t know all the details, but…” Not exactly a convincing rational argument.
The highlight, however, came at about 1:08:56, with this exchange:
HH: I just want to know why Thomas Dunn believes what he believes about this particular case.
TD: …The only thing I can say…you asked me what makes me tick. What makes me tick…
HH: About this case.
TD: What makes me tick, I went into this case to make films. I went into this, honestly, to scare people, because I thought this was frightening stuff. Hollywood makes millions of dollars offa these very very things that we’re talkin’ about, right? So they make all kinds of films about Satanic cults and all this crazy stuff, and spiritual things, and people possessed and all that stuff. I went into it to make a film. And the deeper I began to research, and the more I began to study, it got real real for me. And I talked to the people that experienced this stuff, and I believe that they were telling the truth. When I saw the Hampstead interviews, I believe the kids were telling the truth because they could not have known those things unless they experienced ’em. I believe that when you watch their body language, when you listen to their words, I think it’s easy to discern that they’re telling the truth. That’s my experience. That’s not your experience, you’re asking me why, I’m telling you why. I’ve heard so many people say the exact same thing.
HH: So…hold it…so, okay, sorry. So the interviews, there were three interviews, P and Q, so the young boy and the young girl were interviewed by the police. And there were three interviews. There was one, two, and then third, where they recanted their stories. So you’re saying that you believe their body language, their truth, for all three of those? Or one? Or two? Or three? I mean, do you believe all of them or just part of them?
TD: I think especially the recant is the most important, because you can tell that the boy did not want to, he did not want to recant, he did not want to say that. And he—every time, he was asked several different times, and each time he got closer to recanting, but he said, ‘yeah, not that many’, y’know, until he finally said it didn’t happen. So I think, I would encourage people, watch the recant video, you know, make your own decision, I’m not really here to convince you or to convince sceptics, it doesn’t matter to me if you believe in this or not.
HH: But Tom, Tom. I want to be really sincere with you right now. I want to be really sincere with you right now. It’s actually very important. Because RD is receiving death threats. The man has to change his name, he has to hide because he’s receiving so many death threats. Everybody who watches your videos, who believes that this stuff happens, some of them act on it. Okay? So it’s not like you’re just, ‘Oh! I got this idea about this happening and so I’ll put it out there”. People are going to believe you. And they’re going to act upon that. And they are acting upon that. RD is receiving death threats. So unless you are 100% believing that this—what happened did not happen the way it happened, you are perpetuating a lie. And you need to understand that. It’s very, very important. And I don’t think you’re making a lot of money off of the banners and the little cards that you have and the website and all this, if you are, then that’s even worse, because now, what you have in your pocket is blood money. And I want you to understand that. And I want you to really, really think about that.
Dunn stammered and squirmed, as well he ought. Then he revealed that his “evidence” of RD’s guilt was the interview he’d done with Victoria Derbyshire.
At this point we had to stop the video to clean the coffee off our computer screen.
We strongly recommend the video, and we’d like to thank HH for stepping up and schooling Dunn. It’s about time somebody did.