Satanic ritual abuse promotion: Hiding in plain sight

Yesterday we discussed an often-overlooked group which has been victimised by those who promote the myth of “Satanic ritual abuse”: well-meaning, intelligent folk who have been taken in by promoters of SRA. In yesterday’s post we emphasised the ubiquitous training seminars, workshops, and even institutes of higher education which ran rampant in the 1980s and 1990s, during the height of the “satanic panic” of that time.

We’re sad to say, however, that promotion of the SRA myth is not merely a relic of the past. It’s alive and well, and living in some places you might not expect.

It is, one might say, hiding in plain sight.

The UK godmother of SRA

Most of our readers will likely be aware of then-Tavistock Clinic consultant psychotherapist Valerie Sinason, who secured her place as the undisputed godmother of SRA in the UK when she treated a patient named Carol Felstead in five-hour weekly sessions, between October 1992 and May 1993.

According to Mark Pendergrast’s book The Repressed Memory Epidemic: How it Happened and What We Need to Learn from It,

Sinason and her colleague Robert Hale unearthed grotesque memories of abuse from Felstead, then 28, who changed her last name to Myers. The process was ‘tantamount to a form of psychological torture’, as the patient’s brothers, Kevin and Richard Felstead observed in their riveting 2014 book, Justice for Carol“.

Under Sinason’s and Hale’s care, Felstead came to ‘remember’ sacrificial slaughter, rape, infanticide, and ritual murder. She recalled being force-fed urine and feces and being sewn into a dead bull’s stomach to be reborn from it ritually. She claimed to have given birth to six children conceived by cult members, including her father and a brother. The babies were aborted and killed. Apparently no one bothered to examine Felstead to determine that she had never been pregnant. In Chapter 32 of the 1994 book, Treating Survivors of Satanist Abuse, Sinason and Hale wrote about Felstead as ‘Rita’, without her consent.

Ms Felstead would later die under mysterious circumstances. Her family has created an excellent blog which describes what’s known about her experience.

In February 2000, following Jean La Fontaine’s solid debunking of the notion of SRA in the UK,

Valerie Sinason and Rob Hale, who were leading critics of the [La Fontaine] report…subsequently received £22,000 from the health department to document evidence of ritual abuse from the reported experiences of their patients.

Ms Sinason, who is based at the Tavistock clinic in London with Dr Hale, who is also a psychiatrist, said 46 of her patients claimed to have witnessed murder of children or adults during ritual abuse ceremonies that had involved up to 300 people at a time. Some 70% of the reported abuse was carried out by paedophiles and the rest by satanists.

Ms Sinason currently runs the Clinic for Dissociative Studies in Harley Street, but she has strong links with another, seemingly less “niche” organisation—The Bowlby Centre, which describes itself thus:

The Bowlby Centre provides a 4 year part time psychotherapy taught course which is accredited by the United Kingdom Council for Psychotherapy. Our influences include classical psychoanalytic thinkers from Freud to Winnicott and challenges to traditional approaches from authors such as Jessica Benjamin, John Bowlby, Ronald Fairbairn and Stephen Mitchell.

Browsing through the Centre’s website, we were intrigued to note events such as “Working with Dissociation in Clinical Practice Using an Attachment Perspective“. A quick glance at the speakers list for this 2014 event:

This is a two-day workshop designed for experienced mental health professionals, who will get to hear their peers discussing the recognition and treatment of SRA and Dissociative Identity Disorder as though they were actually real things. This would be like a teacher attending a workshop, run by experts, on how to expel demons from unruly children. Oh, and did we mention that the price for this workshop ranges from £400 to £540?

Ritual abuse? We wrote the book on it!

On another page of The Bowlby Centre’s website, we noticed that they were promoting a book, published in 2011, titled Ritual Abuse and Mind Control: The Manipulation of Attachment Needs, a book of essays edited by Orit Badouk Epstein, Joseph Schwartz, and Rachel Wingfield Schwartz.

The book’s promotional blurb reads,

People who have survived ritual abuse or mind control experiments have often been silenced, accused of lying, mocked and disbelieved. Clinicians working with survivors often find themselves isolated, facing the same levels of disbelief and denial from other professionals within the mental health field [Ya think?—Ed.]. This report of a conference proceedings presents knowledge and experience from both clinicians and survivors to promote understanding and recovery from organized and ritual abuse, mind control and programming.

The book combines clinical presentations, survivors’ voices, and research material to help address the ways in which we can work clinically with mind control and cult programming from the perspective of relational psychotherapy.

Oh, we almost forgot this bit:

Contributors – Ellen Lacter, Sue Richardson, Rachel Wingfield Schwartz, Valerie Sinason and Orit Badouk Epstein.

Let’s reiterate: The Bowlby Centre teaches people to become psychotherapists, who may then be accredited by the UKCP. In other words, any person you know—a loved one, friend, perhaps even yourself—could find themselves in the care of a person who received their psychotherapy training at an institute which teaches that SRA not only exists, but is a valid subject for prospective mental health care professionals to study, explore, and diagnose.

There’s more—much, much more—to discuss on this subject, but perhaps the most important thing to remember is that the myth of SRA is not merely an artefact from the last satanic panic. It’s a contemporary problem, and one which must be addressed by sane and rational people.

104 thoughts on “Satanic ritual abuse promotion: Hiding in plain sight

  1. Truly scary post, EC. It would certainly make me ask any Psychotherapist where they received training and if they believed in SRA before I would consider their service.

    I would hope others would too. Unfortunately, a lot of people would, sadly, have their delusions reinforced by such Psychotherapists… and that is shocking in this day and age.

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  2. Here’s one for you. When Jack Straw was Home Sec he refused a posthumous pardon for the Lancashire witches executed for their ‘crimes’. Check I’m not making it up and just consider what that actually means in the 21st century.

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  3. The Carol Myers’ story is an ongoing tragedy for her family.

    It has occurred to me that in all this talk of ‘Satanism’ (not the Satanicviews type which I believe is more about Pagan rituals? correct me if I’m wrong) that the only ones who truly believe in a real entity like The Devil and that magic rituals, spells and incarnations (and everything you have seen in a Hammer Horror film) can summon up “his” presence along with all the ludicrous claims (as exampled by convicted child abuser Abraham Chrisite’s obsession with child anal sex)- are those who paint themselves as opponents of “satanism” and promoters of various child sacrifice orgies etc etc as seen in the Hampstead Hoax.

    They act all as one and are True Believers : that the rich and powerful and the Rothschilds (stand-ins for The Jews) all act as one and all believe the same and can be controlled.

    Icke has spread many of these vile beliefs with his claims the Rothschild have ‘seeded’ 1000s of Rothschild family members (Hitler? Russian Revolution ? WW2 ?) all around the world. This is accompanied by the ridiculous notion that everyone born into a family and even that extended family acts the same, shares basically the same brain and will act accordingly to a set script when we all know from our families, siblings can be a nightmare of conflicting beliefs and actions.

    The Satanic Rituals as claimed by the Hampstead bunch truly believe that 1000s of years of these orgies and baby murders and Wednesday brunches with a bucket of baby legs cleverly disguised as a McDonalds McNuggets are done so the Parish can , well what?. Get a nicer house near the Heath so Ted Heath and Michael Foot can go cottaging together and HH The Queen gobbles down Canadian kiddies so ..why exactly?.

    Do they allegedly do these things because they keep them in power (and how?) or because they think it might keep them powerful and if that’s the case why bother when they are in power anyway?

    In reality the Hoaxtead Promoters who are all to a man and woman filled with alleged Christian beliefs (exampled by APD) actually believe more in the power of these rituals, incantations, orgies and so on than anyone else.
    They are in fact- the true ( closet) Satanists they claim to oppose!
    Just as we suspect those who are endlessly obsessed with pedo tales in the media and with re-publishing the children’s videos may possibly be acting upon deeper suspect instincts and desires.

    # lecture ends here and will continue in pub after lunch.

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  4. Didn’t know that- extraordinary. The poor ladies, they must still have descendants around today. As do their murderers.

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  5. It makes you wonder if there is any governing body for their trade, and is it aware of/approves of these people and the people they are associating with?
    (Solicitors here can be cautioned by their lot for bringing the industry into disrepute as an example)

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  6. Yes, I knew that Sinason had her own clinic and that she’d previously been associated with the Tavistock (irony of ironies), but not that she was associated with a seemingly respectable teaching institution.

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  7. There is, Steved. The United Kingdom Council for Psychotherapy offers accreditation, as does the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy. Ms Sinason is registered with the former. In 2016 some noises were made about a disciplinary hearing for her, but I’ve never been able to discover exactly what happened.

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  8. I don’t like to speak for SV, and I’m not sure exactly what his branch of Satanism involves, but I think that overall you’re making a really good point.

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  9. @GOS – you said:
    “It has occurred to me that in all this talk of ‘Satanism’ (not the Satanicviews type which I believe is more about Pagan rituals? correct me if I’m wrong) that the only ones who truly believe in a real entity like The Devil and that magic rituals, spells and incarnations (and everything you have seen in a Hammer Horror film) can summon up “his” presence along with all the ludicrous claims (as exampled by convicted child abuser Abraham Chrisite’s obsession with child anal sex)- are those who paint themselves as opponents of “satanism” and promoters of various child sacrifice orgies etc etc as seen in the Hampstead Hoax”
    and
    “They are in fact- the true ( closet) Satanists they claim to oppose!”

    Those are huge BINGO!s, my friend 🙂
    I was thinking of posting something about this myself, recently…are you reading my thoughts, or am I accidentally vamping off yours? 🙂

    Where could you find a roomful of people who would claim to believe in the reversed-christianity satanic abuse cult mythologies? That ritualized rape turns the victims into mind-controlled slaves-for-Satan, that Satan confers supernatural powers on those who drink the blood of sacrificed infants, and all those other things you’ve mentioned?
    NOT at any gathering of the Church of Satan, or the Satanic Temple, or Temple of Set…nor at any Rosicrucian or Freemason Temple, nor at a COTO (California Ordo Templi Orientis) picnic or a Neo-Pagan festival. You WOULD find them, at a S.M.A.R.T. sra-ra-mc survivor claimant conference.

    Where could you find a roomful of people who claim to have actually practiced/ participated in this abuse-cult Satanism?
    Again, out of all of those, only at the SMART conference.
    Of course, the sra-ra-mc survivor claimants would tell you they got out of their cult, reformed, saw the light and accepted Jesus as their saviour or some such. But among the ones who are also DID claimants, it is quite common for them to profess that any anti-social acts on their part are the result of an Alter Personality who is “still in the (satanic abuse) cult” – still an active member of, participant in, and controlled by, such a group. And if they truly believe that, is it possible they could act it out – especially under the influence of drugs or alcohol?
    Yes, the “survivors” ARE the hollywood horror movie satanist “cult” in their communities, and the only organization of such persons there has ever been in that community.

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  10. Dear oh dear, Mark Ceylon has put up another utube
    Freemasons are pedophiles and satanists and run the courts, government etc etc etc etc

    (he seems to be copying Neelu and doing it sitting on the floor and against the front door)
    I reckon he should see an optometrist, he seems to have difficult in seeing the screen, or maybe some of the words are too big lol

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  11. According to family legend our family is distantly related. From what I can glean from reputable historians, they probably weren’t witches at all, they were Roman Catholics. At the times when they were mysteriously absent and accused of attending “witches’ Sabbaths” they were probably attending secret Catholic services – they couldn’t admit this as it would have endangered the lives of the congregation and the priest. The most famous “Lancashire Witch”, Lady Alice Nutter, is believed to be of the same family as Robert and John Nutter, two priests executed for their faith. “Nutter” came to mean “mad” because of the families reputation for taking religious devotion to the point of self destruction.

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  12. Another juicy Colin Ross quote, from “The CIA Doctors”, page 234-236

    “In the course of my work as an expert witness, I have encountered five cases of pure iatrogenic multiple personality disorder…
    The iatrogenic cases provided extreme examples of massive overutilization of treatment techniques and boundary violations…the treatments mimicked the mind control techniques used by destructive cults and the mind control doctors [MKUltra]…treatments included prolonged inpatient admissions lasting as long as two years which imposed conditions of sensory deprivation, sleep and food deprivation, repeated trance induction, isolation from outside world, control of information and altered states of consciousness due to drugs.
    The patient’s families of origin were defined as Satanic and all doubts about the reality of the multiple personality or the false memories of Satanic ritual abuse were defined as symptoms of cult programming or resistance to treatment….boundary violations by therapists ranged from minor problems to sexual involvement…the personal beliefs of the therapists about “the cult”, and the therapist’s fear and paranoia, were well known to the patients. In many cases, the treatment plan was modified to protect the therapist and patient from the cult. Mail was opened by hospital staff and reviewed for secretly implanted triggers. Control of the patient’s life space, thoughts, beliefs, behaviours and interactions was extensive or complete for prolonged periods of time.
    Serious medical problems were ignored or interpreted as cult programming.
    The medical records were extremely unusual. There were no target symptoms or problems that could be treated…the charts were full of comments about the cult, programming, Satanic holidays and the like. These were reported as facts, not allegations of the patient, and were the primary concern of the staff. Stabilization, return to the outside world, building daily coping skills, employment, and the quality of outside relationships all took second place to the cosmic battle with the forces of evil, the cult alter personalities, and the cult programming.
    There was no evidence that any of the Satanic ritual abuse was real”.

    Let’s play that last bit over, shall we?
    There was no evidence that any of the Satanic ritual abuse was real
    There was no evidence that any of the Satanic ritual abuse was real
    There was no evidence that any of the Satanic ritual abuse was real – hahaha!!

    This is what that idiot hypnotherapist D.C Hammond was involved in when he gave his infamous “Greenbaum Speech” at the Fourth Annual Eastern Regional Conference on Abuse and Multiple Personality, 1992.
    There is nothing of value in it, it consists of ignorant, racist misinformation and paranoia. The only important thing about his speech, is that it was such a frank admission of grotesque malpractice. He openly bragged that he was squandering his patient’s medical insurance money, playing Sherlock Hypno-detective and the Mystery of the International Satanic Abuse Cult. He ‘confesses’ that he had stopped treating his patients symptoms long ago and was just exploiting them as guinea-pigs, drugging them, inducing trance state and then rummaging around in their subconscious looking for clues to the great SRA puzzle: “Hello? Are you in there Dr Greenbaum? Come out – come-out!”

    And Valerie is STILL playing these games with her patients.

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  13. This is Valerie Sinason’s very sparse 12 page report that she has been dining out on for years.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/389624/response/969467/attach/4/REDACTED%20REPORT.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1

    It is worth paying VERY close attention to her figures at the end of the report and what she says here:

    “It is worth noting that both at the Portman Clinic and in the Clinic for Dissociative Studies we have not found evidence of fundamentalist religious beliefs, recovered memory or Munchhausen’s as issues in those alleging this kind of abuse. Indeed, the pilot study on patients alleging ritual abuse that Dr Robert Hale, then Director of the Portman Clinic and I submitted in July 2000 included the finding that the only two out of 51 subjects who had any link with evangelist religious groups made contact with them after disclosing ritual Satanist abuse, and only because no-one else would listen to them.“

    https://wayback.archive.org/web/20170304142629/http://valeriesinason.co.uk/revisedintro.html

    If I was paranoid, I’d notice that the website has gone offline in the past few weeks since the report was released under FOI laws.

    Anyway, her website is showing her revised intro to this book.

    https://www.bookdepository.com/Attachment-Trauma-Multiplicity-Valerie-Sinason/9780415491815

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  14. Her report says they assessed fifty consecutive referrals. Is it just a typo or slip? Maybe.

    Read the report though, and ruminate that this is essentially what the whole edifice is built on. A few hundred words, once you strip out references to other authors and waffle. It vanishes into dust before you eyes once you look closely! I mean she mentions parents making referrals because of court cases, but then it isn’t clear if the child ended up as a ‘subject’ of her study or the mother. There’s a whole load of other ethical considerations when using children as your research subjects. She doesn’t mention any special ethical considerations. So, I am thinking is just a really incredibly shit researcher, or were the subjects the children’s mothers? The report doesn’t make things clear. There’s nothing in there about processes for referring to police when they are told of murders. There are obligations to do that. Do they think in their heart of hearts it is actually a pile of crap then. I mean this. If someone tells you someone has been murdered you call 999. If a patient tells you someone has been murdered that the police don’t know about, you call 999. If you aren’t sure if the police know, you call 999.

    It might not be 999, there are channels for safeguarding referrals to multi agency bodies.

    But, did the police find the bodies and prosecute anyone for all the multitudes of murders? Police don’t just give up on murders. They are still recently looking for new leads in the murder of Anne Noblett in 1957. This isn’t the only murder case that has been reviewe.

    Valerie Sinason gravely insults the rest of the population if she insinuates that people wouldn’t want to bring to justice murderers. I actually find it incredibly offensive.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-42582284

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  15. Let’s not forget Masons suffered the same fete as Jews, the disabled,Romany, intellectuals, socialists, gays etc etc under the Nazis and Hitler.

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  16. The complaint was not upheld, but by an amazing coincidence Valerie Sinason “retired” as director of the Clinic for Dissociative Studies the same month. I was in touch with the UKCP about it. According to another blogger (Hardcastle), hush money was paid to parents of two children who were referred to the Clinic when they started making classic SRA accusations against their parents.
    Also, her qualificiations look impressive, but as an example, she is referred to as Doctor Sinason. But her doctorate is not in psychiatry, as far as I can see she appears to have no medical qualifications at all, just counselling ones. MACP is Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology or Psychotherapy. And her PhD thesis is actually about people with learning disability – another defenceless group she preys on. The title is “Learning disability as a trauma and the impact of trauma on people with a learning disability”, awarded in 2004.

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  17. I have a comment with a few links that is awaiting approval so my last comment might not make that much sense! Haha

    Can anyone remember the book with patient written pieces? There was one by the Queen of the Illuminati and therefore the actual ruler of the planet. How many Napoleons do they have in one room? I read much of the book on Google books. Cannot remember it now.

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  18. Many SRA fantasists cite the unpublished report for the Department of Health written by Valerie Sinason and John Hale (parts of which were leaked to the red tops) as proof that SRA is real, and that the government suppressed the findings. She also claimed to have “clinical evidence”, whatever that means in the context, that SRA is real. The report was never published, so none of those who cite it existence in support of SRA have ever seen it.

    I have mulled over trying to get hold of a copy, as I believe it should be in the public domain for a number of reasons, not least that Sinason herself has never complained much about it not being published. To me this is a sign that she has come to regard it as potentially damaging to her prestige. She has also neatly evaded any peer review as a result.

    Here’s a link to a blogger who did try to obtain a copy some years ago. No big conspiracy, the report was just shunted around departments as jurisdiction changed. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/report_by_john_hale_and_valerie?unfold=1#incoming-934073
    I’ll see if I can track it down and let you all know the outcome.
    SAFF has also blogged several times on the Report.
    http://saff.nfshost.com/dohjunk.htm

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  19. In reference to someone’s post yesterday about reporting people to Twitter. I have had some success. I choose the hate directed at a person or group and then select the most offensive Tweets to report. I don’t engage with the person. I also block them. People have had their accounts deleted or at the least been stopped from Tweeting for a while. I use it sparingly and it has to be foul language Tweeted to a person or hateful content.

    In my mind, it would be a criminal offence to ring me up and abuse me on my landline, even once, so I don’t feel freezepeach guilt. I remember back in the day when people did actually ring landlines and abuse people. Paedophiles and creeps of various types did it too hoping to get a child or to frighten someone. I knew people who were harassed too through the landline. BT and police could be helpful. People went to prison for it too.

    It is still an offence to make a threatening phone call.

    https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/communications-offences

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  20. It is worth paying VERY close attention to her figures at the end of the report and what she says here:

    “It is worth noting that both at the Portman Clinic and in the Clinic for Dissociative Studies we have not found evidence of fundamentalist religious beliefs, recovered memory or Munchhausen’s as issues in those alleging this kind of abuse. Indeed, the pilot study on patients alleging ritual abuse that Dr Robert Hale, then Director of the Portman Clinic and I submitted in July 2000 included the finding that the only two out of 51 subjects who had any link with evangelist religious groups made contact with them after disclosing ritual Satanist abuse, and only because no-one else would listen to them.“

    https://wayback.archive.org/web/20170304142629/http://valeriesinason.co.uk/revisedintro.html

    If I was paranoid, I’d notice that the website has gone offline in the past few weeks since the report was released under FOI laws.

    Anyway, her website is showing her revised intro to this book.

    https://www.bookdepository.com/Attachment-Trauma-Multiplicity-Valerie-Sinason/9780415491815

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  21. The Independent on Sunday, April 30 2000 article about Valerie’s imaginary report is quite humorous.
    There are great examples of the evolution of claims – lies – how they have been revised over time because the original claim was debunked. For example:
    “Ms Sinason, who has treated 126 ritual abuse survivors, said yesterday that in many cases children were tortured by being held under water or made to believe they had witnessed the murder of infants as part of the satanic ritual”.
    Naughty, naughty! Children were…made to believe they had witnessed the murder of infants as part of the satanic ritual. No, the original narrative was adamant that children not only witnessed but participated in the murder of REAL infants. But all manner of lies about, I mean explanations for, why no crime scenes, bodies, or remains were ever found, held up to investigation. So here we have it modified to: “made to believe” they had witnessed murders. And here:
    “Some children are born for the purpose of abuse and are not registered on birth certificates,” she added, is a modification of the original narrative’s claims that the abused & murdered children were either the children of the adult SRA claimant themselves or were officially missing children kidnapped for the purpose. Both of those claims were easily disproven, so now it is modified to a lie so outrageous it cannot be debunked – the abused & murdered kids are deliberately kept out of all records, so they are never officially missing. They can’t be proven to exist, but no one can prove they didn’t exist, or that they weren’t abused or sacrificed.

    Which is a good parallel to Valeries’ “missing” book. About the best kind of report for SRA fantasists to cite – an imaginary one – they can claim it documented anything at all, and no one can prove them wrong because it doesn’t exist. Except for my copy, but it’s a lot briefer than they claimed. There’s no 50 case histories in it.
    Here it is:
    [A Report on the Reality of Ritual Abuse
    Compiled by Dr John Hale, Portman Clinic in London, and psychotherapist Valerie Sinason.
    Page 1 – Jean La Fontaine is a stinky poo-head!]

    That’s all there is…

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  22. You mean this report? This absolute stinker?

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/389624/response/969467/attach/4/REDACTED%20REPORT.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1

    Pilot Study on Alleged Organised Ritual Abuse: Final Report
    Dr Robert Hale FRCPsych
    Ms Valerie Sinason BA Hons PGTC MACP

    Or, is there another one?

    The one I have linked to is a pile of crap though. 12 pages. One of those for a table. One for references. 10 pages left. One is a half page. So nine and a half pages.

    Page nine. Conclusions. “We are left with a substantial number of cases in which the central allegations remain neither proven nor disproven by police”

    Yet, what is this just above in situations where there is some sort of family law dispute involving a child?

    “Forces demand new evidence in order to re-open these files rather than starting from the beginning” and this means to me that the police did investigate but found no evidence of a crime. Ho hum.

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  23. Qualitative research can be really good indeed if done well. This on the other hand is actually a stinker. I am surprised it hasn’t caused more of a ripple.

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  24. I’m actually surprised that Ross would have admitted to any cases being iatrogenic in nature. I assume it’s a clever ruse, designed to throw people off his scent?

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  25. I was just poking fun, yes that seems to be the real one. 🙂

    I could compile an ENORMOUS number of “cases” involving criminal mental health malpractice, by cranking out all the “allegations” myself and making them nonsensical enough that the police would just decline to look at them. Then they would be “neither proven nor disproven by police”, and since the content would be considered confidential no one would know that it was all me being a hoaxster. I could go on demanding that a special investigative panel – consisting of me and some friends – be appointed and funded to look into “these very serious allegations which were never properly investigated”, for decades to come!

    But seriously, with these historic UK sra non-cases, the “central allegations” could come from an SRA-obsessed RAINS social worker intuitively interpreting some child’s playground high-jinks as: “telling” him or her that they were being raped by a satanic High Priest. You can’t trust that they mean clearly verbalized accusations, when they say a child “disclosed” to someone. They thought there was something sinister about a 9 year old boy pretending to be a Minister whose pants fall down at the back, revealing bare buttocks. By itself, that’s pretty meaningless considering hnormal, never abused little boys think bare butts are an endlessly funny subject.

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  26. @coyote – no, I don’t think so. For one thing he’s demonstrating that he is personally capable of identifying iatrogenic cases and can’t be accused of an ideological or self-interested blind-spot. But this disclosure, above, is in the context of supposedly demonstrating that MKUltra generated Manchurian Candidate multiplicity falls into the “real thing” category – which is his goal in that chapter. I left out long passages describing the characteristics of real versus not real multiplicity ’cause it was pretty boring 🙂

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  27. It occurred to me that Valerie Sinason could be part of a hitherto undescribed and undiscovered cult.

    She has a clinic. People go to her. They have witnessed murders. Not a SINGLE murder victim is found nor a single person prosecuted for murder.

    Is she a cult plant?

    Is she actually there to protect Satanic cult murderers?

    Perhaps she is the most incompetent therapist that ever existed unable to support and guide even a single client to give coherent evidence to police that leads to a prosecution?

    Does she not want the Satanic baby-killers to be stopped?

    How many further baby murders have happened while her clinic has been operating?

    Join the dots sheeple!!!

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  28. Thanks, everyone 🙂

    We’ve had successes getting WordPress hate blogs taken down before, so fingers crossed.

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  29. …Says the woman who claims to be an MK Ultra-trained assassin who was ritually hunted in a forest before she was born.

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  30. Erm…Cat does realise that it’s her crew who keep saying that we’re the all-powerful Satanists, right? In fact, anyone who’s read the blog will know the trouble we have getting even single posts or videos removed. We’ve never claimed to be powerful. If we had any special powers whatsoever, all the videos and posts about Hoaxtead would have been history by now. Cat’s powers of perception remind me very much of Kristie Sue’s.

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  31. “Erm…Cat does realise that it’s her crew who keep saying that we’re the all-powerful Satanists, right?”

    That struck me too, EC, along with the fact that we’ve repeatedly stated that we’re not!

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  32. It’s weird that they still think we’re Satanists. We come from a range of religious backgrounds (I myself am an Atheist) and I believe only one Satanist has ever commented here. Not that I’m knocking Satanists, of course, just the apparent necessity for the likes of Cat, Ogilvy et al to frequently resort to lies.

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  33. I think these examples of iatrogenic MPD cases and psychiatric malpractice are particularly good examples of the Satanic Panic in the mental health field as it manifested at that time.
    By Satanic panic, I mean people convincing themselves (wherever the got the idea from) that there were secret satanic cults plotting criminal mayhem in their community/society, and contemplating that idea obsessively enough to generate a strong and sustained fear reaction in themselves, so that their behaviour became irrational.

    Critics who express skepticism about there having been a Satanic Panic at all, like R. Cheit, conflate what I’m talking about with the idea of a “moral panic” – specifically a moral panic about increased public awareness of CSA – which is NOT what I mean by Satanic Panic. I don’t understand enough about moral panic theory to say if what I’m talking about was also a moral panic or not, but I didn’t perceive any kind of social panic about CSA in my community at that time. I didn’t know anyone who was falsely accused of CSA, and if there had been a support group for falsely accused parents in my community I wasn’t aware of it.

    I’m talking about pervasive irrational fear of imaginary satanic cult activity. I’ve documented many examples of that, within the mental health field during that time. Another example is, at the 7th annual ISSMP&D conference in November 1990, George Ganaway, anthropologist Sherrill Mulhern, and psychologist Richard Knoll gave a skeptical presentation questing the existence of the cults patients were supposedly talking about. After the lecture, they were mobbed by some of their professional peers who snared at them things like: “I KNOW your one of those satanists (or witches, or satanic witches, or evil in any case)”. In Sinason’s book (1992?) every practitioner talks about exaggerated fears for their safety just because they KNOW about the alleged abuse cults, not to mention being serriously traumatized just by hearing about patient disclosures from their colleagues.

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  34. Haha, is she trying to justify the feeble numbers or has she been too busy conferring with Malky deperately looking for some dignity in obviously the wrong place………now that her antics have been displayed for all to see and be disgusted by ? Too busy, to upload anything new, I mean………I havn’t looked.

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  35. I could compile an ENORMOUS number of “cases” involving criminal mental health malpractice, by cranking out all the “allegations” myself and making them nonsensical enough that the police would just decline to look at them. Then they would be “neither proven nor disproven by police”, and since the content would be considered confidential no one would know that it was all me being a hoaxster. I could go on demanding that a special investigative panel – consisting of me and some friends – be appointed and funded to look into “these very serious allegations which were never properly investigated”, for decades to come!

    You have just described the modus operandi of the Hampstead hoax, Justin.

    1. Force two children to make a bunch of allegations which are so completely nonsensical that the police will only look at the ones which might possibly be feasible in the real world.
    2. The police investigate only the things which could potentially be possible (because having babies arrive via DHL, for example, or dozens of people swarm into or out of a school on a daily basis to rape children, is just plain silly).
    3. Police look into some of the more feasible claims, discover no evidence whatsoever.
    4. Now all those other ridiculous allegations “were neither proven nor disproven” by police.
    5. Ergo, Hoaxtead mobsters can run around screeching that no proper investigation was done, it’s all part of the cover-up, etc. etc. etc.

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  36. What’s the betting that neither Angie or Michele Wheatley do anything to help Neelu in any way, apart from sharing and commenting on her Facebook posts?

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  37. Ooh interesting. Which fruitloop has gone and gotten themselves into trouble this time? These people must be regulars at their local police stations.

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  38. The cases he mentions at the beginning are ridiculous and the courts sometimes give silly sentences. He seems to infer that the courts are lenient with all sex offenders, which of course isn’t true. The newspapers tend to focus on the ones where the courts get it wrong.

    What I’d like to know is when the police are going to pick HIM up for harassing innocent pensioners outside a church. Just sayin’.

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  39. I can’t listen to all of it. It’s like sitting in my least favourite pub and being cornered by that man everyone else has sidled away from….

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  40. Is anyone convinced that a genuine WordPress notification would misspell ‘replies’ and incorrectly insert an apostrophe?

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  41. Of Course they did. Nice to see the guy adding Holly Bagel’s stories as his own, as well as his standard Cathy O’Lyin’ and Fiona Barncat’s tales.

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  42. I think I saw him talking on video in Belindas Garden. He used to say he was from the Orkneys SRA case. His story has grown and grown, groaning now with every type of extra ordinary, myth, and all the socks are gathering round, oohing, aahing like they do to vulnerable people.

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  43. He did a video with APD where he mentioned he trained to fight to the death with all the others outed as frauds. Complete fantasist. APD added a a few of his stories to her own during their videos. Pathetic.

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  44. I must admit, she was being TOTALLY accurate in her last statement…..

    “I’m a bit like Field McConnell, my practise is READY, FIRE, AIM”

    Yes, yes indeed you do….
    (have a think about that statement, go on…..)

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  47. I also think WordPress would know to put a colon after ‘Please note’ and wouldn’t have used the word ‘any’ before ‘replies’.

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  48. That is indeed extraordinary Grobnob, as is the fact that regardless of the qualifications of Ms Sinason, a real actual medical doctor – a former head of ethics of the British Medical Association, no less – is apparently implicated in the Felstead case.

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  49. I sensed that one or two of the regular commenters here got a little defensive when I pointed out that there have actually been a number of cases of convictions in relation to serious organised child abuse in pagan communities in the UK.

    Of course, the numbers are relatively small compared to, say the numbers of professed Christians who have been convicted, but statistically, one assumes that the number of pagans is relatively small compared to the number of Christians (even in an alleged ‘post-Christian’ society like Britain).

    If one takes the feminist view, ‘paternalism did it’ – the enemy is paternalism – that is the cause of child abuse.

    I myself prefer the thesis that organised child abuse – as opposed to individual offenders, the stereotypical lone weirdo in the dirty mac – is usually due to undue power in communities without sufficient oversights and controls – as the old saying goes, “all power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

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  51. Why not believe these things happen? No-one believed the rumours about Saville and so many other heinous crimes, especially against children. Could it be something to do with us not wanting to accept that some people are wicked?

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  52. Possibly because rather than just ‘believe’, you can find out the ‘facts’, which show clearly that the children were coerced (or as the courts called it – tortured) by ABRAHAM CHRISTIE, the secret rooms and drawers simply dont exist as claimed, and the children once removed from his presence recanted their stories

    You can ‘believe’ the sky is pink with purple polkadots all you want, but it remains stubbornly blue despite all your belief…

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