Finally, a conspiracy theory we can believe in

It’s been said before: just because a great many conspiracy theories are bunkum doesn’t mean that all of them are.

Many of us are old enough to remember, for instance, the Watergate scandal, a conspiracy which rocked the U.S. government to its foundations, and seriously damaged public trust in the presidency. There’s also evidence that the tobacco companies knew as early as the 1950s that cigarettes cause cancer, but chose to keep that information under wraps. It wasn’t until 1998, when the Master Settlement Agreement between the tobacco companies and the U.S. government was signed, that the conspiracy was acknowledged and payouts began to be made to victims.

So yes, conspiracies can and do happen.

We’ve been interested to note lately that some of the details behind the Pizzagate hoax are becoming public, and while Pizzagate itself is essentially a load of tosh, elements of its genesis may very well have been planned. Planned by whom, and for what purpose? That’s where things get sticky.

A recent investigation by Rolling Stone magazine, the Investigative Fund, and Reveal News from the Center for Investigative Reporting states that the first post online about Pizzagate originated on 29 October 2016, from a fake Facebook account belonging to a non-existent user named “Carmen Katz” from Joplin, Missouri:

The original Pizzagate Facebook post appeared on the evening of October 29th, 2016, a day after then-FBI Director James Comey announced that the bureau would be reopening its investigation into (Hillary) Clinton’s use of a private e-mail server while secretary of state. Data from the server had been found on electronics belonging to former Rep. Anthony Weiner (the husband of Clinton’s close aide Huma Abedin), who had been caught texting lewd messages to a 15-year-old. On Facebook, a user named Carmen Katz wrote, “My NYPD source said its much more vile and serious than classified material on Weiner’s device. The email DETAIL the trips made by Weiner, Bill and Hillary on their pedophile billionaire friend’s plane, the Lolita Express. Yup, Hillary has a well documented predilection for underage girls. . . . We’re talking an international child enslavement and sex ring.”

While reporters were unable to contact Ms Katz, they managed to link her Facebook account to a real person named Cynthia Campbell, also from Joplin, who would neither confirm nor deny knowledge of the post. However, shortly after reporters contacted Ms Campbell, the “Carmen Katz” account was deleted.

It seems very odd that “Carmen Katz”/Cynthia Campbell would have access to such specific information, but according to the Rolling Stone/Reveal article,

According to Clint Watts, a cyber and homeland-security expert at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, Katz fits neatly into a well-worn blueprint for disinformation campaigns. For a story to gain traction, propagandists plant false information on anonymous chat boards, hoping real people will pick it up and add a “human touch” to acts of digital manipulation. “If you want to sow a conspiracy, you seed it someplace – 4chan or Reddit is a perfect vehicle,” he says, and wait for someone like Katz to take the bait. “Someone or some group,” Watts says, “possibly took this unwitting woman and made her the source that they need.”

The article traces the evolution of the “Hillary/child sex ring” message from an anonymous chat a year previously on 4Chan, where a person calling themselves a “high-level analyst and strategist” for the FBI hosted an “Ask Me Anything” session. This person seemed oddly fond of Russia for a federal agent, writing things like, “Russia is more a paragon of freedom and nationalism than any other country” and “We are the aggressors against Russia.” He also stated that “Bill and Hillary love foreign donors so much. They get paid in children as well as money”; he said that Hillary had sex with kidnapped girls.

And shortly before the “Carmen Katz” Facebook post, a message was posted on an anonymous message board where New York City cops congregate:

“Fatoldman” posted that he had a “hot rumor” about the FBI investigation.
“[T]he feds were forced to reopen the hillary email case [because] apparently the NYPD sex crimes unit was involved in the weiner case,” Fatoldman wrote. “On his laptop they saw emails. [T]hey notified the FBI. Feds were afraid that NYPD would go public so they had to reopen or be accused of a coverup.”

This message was reposted to a Facebook law enforcement group, and then to Twitter. The Twitter user, Eagle Wings (@NIVIsa4031), has a number of influential followers, including former deputy assistant to President Trump Sebastian Gorka and former national security adviser Gen. Michael Flynn. However, Eagle Wings isn’t any old Twitter user: she has tweeted more than 50,000 times since November 2015, to an unusually large number of followers (120,000 as of November 2017). To all appearances, Eagle Wings is a highly automated account, part of a network of bots which amplify certain messages on Twitter.

Whether Katz repeated something a herd of bots was bleating, or repackaged tidbits found on other parts of the Internet, her Facebook post was the “human touch” that helped the fake news story go viral. The “tell,” says Watts, was what happened next. Most of us post into Internet oblivion. But about 12 hours after Katz shared her story, a Twitter user named @DavidGoldbergNY tweeted a screenshot of her post, twice – adding in one version, “I have been hearing the same thing from my NYPD buddies too. Next couple days will be -interesting!”

As it happens, @DavidGoldbergNY appeared to be an automated account too. (It has now been deleted by Twitter for violating its terms of service.)

One of that account’s tweets about the Katz information was retweeted 6,369 times. The message spread—from Twitter it moved to the gutter of conspiracy theory message boards, “Godlike Productions“; then to fake news site YourNewsWire.

According to the Rolling Stone/Reveal News story, the Pizzagate hoax may have involved Russian-based as well as American bot networks. In a feat of investigative journalism (take note, Angie), the team pored over internet data to determine how the Pizzagate story had spread:

(W)e decided to cross-reference the most frequent Pizzagate tweeters with a list of 139 handles associated with Trump campaign staffers, advisers and surrogates. We also ran our entire sample against the list of accounts linked to Russia’s Internet Research Agency. We found that at least 14 Russia-linked accounts had tweeted about Pizzagate, including @Pamela_Moore13, whose avatar is, aptly, an anonymous figure wrapped in an American flag; that account has been retweeted by such prominent Trump supporters as Donald Trump Jr., Ann Coulter and Roger Stone, the political operative who recommended Paul Manafort as Trump’s campaign manager.

In addition to a number of Trump campaign figures and known bot networks, they also uncovered the involvement of fake news sites based in Macedonia, who earn a living creating sites to amplify messages from sites like Fox News, TruePundit.com, DailyCaller.com, InfoWars, and Breitbart. The Macedonian sites don’t make things up; they just republish material that’s already online, and they work for whoever will pay them. At €100 a pop, such sites are a cheap and easy way to boost a story online.

What we found of particular interest in the Rolling Stone/Reveal article is that the humans involved in spreading and “researching” Pizzagate were not, in fact, the primary disseminators of the hoax. If anything, they were used as dupes: the various actors involved in building and spreading the hoax needed “useful idiots” to bring the thing to life, and that’s where the conspiracy community came in. Starting with “Carmen Katz”, U.S.-based conspiracy theorists latched onto the message behind Pizzagate and turned it from a sterile, bot-generated rumour into a gleeful communal witch-hunt. As we know, it culminated in the invasion of a Washington, D.C. pizza restaurant by an armed man who is now in prison.

Pizzagate is not the first time that child sex crime accusations and conspiracy theories about social-political elites running child sex and murder rings have been used as a political weapon. Conspiracy theorists who are obsessed with such things harbour the hope that this sort of allegation will incite a populist revolt which will wipe out the “elites” and the “establishment”, which they view as the root of all evil. Pizzagate contained all the elements of just such a “cleansing force”…except that it now appears that it emerged not from “the people”, but from a variety of sources, none of which had the interests of the populace at heart.

Finally, it seems, we have a conspiracy theory that’s actually believable.


Edited 5 December to add image of one of @DavidGoldbergNY’s original tweets.

132 thoughts on “Finally, a conspiracy theory we can believe in

  1. I do recall seeing a report on the news earlier on in the year where the reporters travelled to Macedonia and met up with some young men who were paid to create the fake news sites as you mentioned in your post.

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  2. Great stuff EC as always. Seems some are still profiteering off this hoax.
    Comments from David Seaman’s Video published 2 Dec 2017.
    They don’t have any qualms about mixing in possible real arrests, and actual cases of child abuse/trafficking unrelated to Pizzagate, in with wild conspiracy theories.

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  3. It certainly does look that JSR. She’s always moaning that people “just sick back and do absolutely nothing to help other humans”. What does she do to help people as all i see her doing is posting vile stuff online and making crap videos where she just continues to moan about everybody else.

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  5. It’s quite disturbing reading those comments to think that people are actually believing the crap they are posting.

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  6. Please stop spreading your hatred and spewiing over everyone you can think of, so desperate for attention. Read the evidence, properly, Debs, actually listen to people that have really laid out the evidence. You make a mockery of everything that CSA Survivors have achieved, by your behaviour. You are actually, really doing the opposite and instead you are helping paedophiles with every word you say.

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  7. You mean, the blackmailing of politicians who have been compromised through engaging in illegal activities, is not related to Spaceships and colonies on mars?
    No need to set up illegal child trafficking rings to blackmail the elites, when you can just set false allegations like Pizzagate in motion, with much less risk.

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  8. I imagine that new laws are going to have to be drafted to cover situations such as the Jon Venables situation. A lot of what the internet has brought to us obviously isn’t covered with our current laws and legislation.

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  9. Yes it is, we had all this last time, Facebook was warned but they seem to think they are a law unto them selves, I believe as a result of Facebook allowing this crap, someone even took their own life. Chris witter was one of the first people years ago to start putting the pictures up, followed by two others who were prosecuted. People just put them up on Facebook, there was even a group, until a couple of days ago.

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  10. There’s something very wrong here, I’m backing this. I’ve listened to all but one now, and the picture that she paints makes me suspect that guess what types have helped this to happen.

    Angelas’ bs complaints about sex education, never talk about this ! Jessica has recentled let it be known that she suffered such malicious harrassment that she was reporting & now speaking out again.

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  11. Really got mixed feelings on that one. But people breaching these orders do nothing to help, even though it does seem that he doesn’t deserve protection, unfortunately the types who shared the pictures have given venables cause to complain, perhaps gain compensation and because you often threaten to tear him limb from limb etc…….you are part of the problem not the solution….. in my view.

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  12. Spot-on, MC.

    Plus honorary degrees, noble though they are, have little or nothing to do with having any knowledge of a given subject. They’re a ceremonial gesture (usually doctorates or occasionally masters degrees) bestowed upon distinguished people, local heroes, celebrities etc. in recognition of their contribution to society, culture, the arts etc. Ben Affleck and Alec Baldwin both have one, for instance. Meryl Streep has three but I’m sure she’d be the first to admit to not being an expert in any of those three fields. Ditto Oprah Winfrey, who has four! And P. Diddy / Puff Daddy / Sean Combs even has one from the college he dropped out of!

    And continuing with your ‘living on another planet’ motif, which planet are Deb and her creepy mates living on if they think for one second that Abe is famous or distinguished enough to have warranted one? Which distinguished seat of learning do they think would have been so mesmerised by his hemp-promoting, child-torturing and spoon-whacking skills that he deserved an honorary doctorate? And I wonder what subject it would come under? I mean what would this make him – Doctor of Dickheadology?

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  13. Just to repeat: there are 100,000s of British citizens out there working their fingers to the bone in Food Banks, genuine charities and so on for no reward or recognition while this nasty piece of self adsorbed filth screeches into her PC and posts idiotic videos on YouTube accusing all & sundry innocents of vile crimes.

    What a nasty old piece of goods she is.
    Deborah Mahmoudieh : get out there and do something practical you lazy fucking bitch ans stop moaning endlessly you frigging lazy cow.

    God that felt good.

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  14. I don’t who supports Brexit or Remain (me-remain) but one of the strengths of the EU is they are tackling matters like this and are far more proactive than the UK.

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  15. A few misspellings there and it’s the bloody keyboard’s fault & nothing to do with the Gin & Tonic I am nursing.

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  16. I really am perplexed how this people negotiate their lives if they really believe this nonsense. How do they even catch the right bus?
    Or do they have 2 lives : one that comes out when they are surfing the net and soaking up fantasies and another that sort of operates during the normal day to day activities?

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  17. There is when you report a post but it’s actually a bit hap-hazard and doesn’t always appear.
    There surely needs to be a dedicated way of reporting real child abuse.
    But in the end those monitoring “reports” are working for a pittance in the Third World and operating of a script that they may not oven understand.
    If entities like Facebook are not hauled into line they will become such a powerful monopoly no-one will dare take them on.

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  18. The whole Bulger matter is quite depressing and very upsetting and one can only feel for the parents.
    But the media share blame here: they love reporting on it and are experts in winding up the parents who must go through hell each time something happens.

    Anonymity is surely best so society can operate and it prevents vigilante action- and I have no respect for vigilantes as I believe they couldn’t really give a stuff about children rather they like an excise for violence.

    The madness here is that there have been several killers- some who were children ( Mary Bell?) where the same anonymity laws apply and it works.
    Also mindful of the girl who helped her friend kill her mother in New Zealand and is now one of the most successful crime writers in the UK.

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  19. No, child abuse isn’t a category in any of the option lists that come up. Often the closest is the prornography/nudity option.

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  20. What can I say?
    When I went to school (60 years ago?) we had sex education with slides. Seemed to work OK although we had to have permission from our parents to attend and if possible, bring a parent along ( God forbid).
    It was also highly embarrassing but what isn’t at the age?

    Then about 30 years ago I was staying with friends in the Netherlands and they asked me to accompany their son to a sex education film screening as they both had to work.
    The film was quite explicit- very explicit, showing all the “parts” etc and quite mechanical even with masturbation advice.
    When I got up from the chair I was cowering behind I was surprised as the kids seemed fairly nonplussed as were the adults. Was it all to do with a European upbringing?
    These days: don’t kids just surf the net and see everything and anything?
    # aren’t CSE films only produced by the government or are they now privately made?

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  21. Any event with Jake in attendance is sure to have real impact. Not.
    Why doesn’t he just sing Kumbaya and be done with it.

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  22. The point is usually people who start these vendetta groups, encourage people who make false allegations, about others, such as Robert Green did sending letters to neighbours of totally innocent people, some others who didn’t even know they were on the list too. I think some people in Hampstead might have something to say too. Paedophile hunters are just as bad too, there is a code of practice in this country called the police and criminal evidence act 1984 I haven’t seen any of these people in their videos keep to that. But they are the first people to have a go at the police if they don’t do it. I’m sure there are professional people who kept an eye on Jon venables using a computer that’s why they found child abuse images on it.

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  23. That Eilish de Avalon lady also has her own playlist of her singing if she counts amongst the hoaxers still.

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  24. I see this comment underneath this video, i wont name the person

    “Ella has had no contact from the children since they were taken and she has not given up trying …..The children have sent cards to their grandparents though, so there is some kind of tenuous contact at least …..”

    Really?

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  25. I really think if a strong enough, clear enough picture is drawn, then measures will be taken….. There are more good people in the world that will help to put pressure as long as they can see through the smoke that these hoaxers have created online……. Facebook did have it, I don’t see it at all anymore…… reporting still seems to rely on too loose methods, still seems to be a numbers game ? that’s why I keep reporting as I can, but I shouldn’t have to, when this is clear child abuse that we have all been reporting.

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  26. There has been talk of licensing, working closely with police, recieving training, which I would support. If they are going to do it, then do it with supervision and training, but your’e right, they say that’s cos they’re pedos and don’t really want them to be catching them or some other shit.

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  27. Scouse Megaphone Man with that obnoxious bint Cassie Crowhurst and others protesting in London today:

    Misty Does London

    He was mightily pissed off that only four people had turned up. Oh and check out how this arsehole shouts accusations at a group of passing teachers in front of their pupils.

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  28. Those above are the same categories they’ve had for as far back as I can remember, apart from fake news, a relatively recent addition and one which actually doesn’t allow you to report the post, just to block the poster.

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  29. She is overwhelmed that her video has reached 300000 and thats about it, likes and shares. Some form of acclaim. She has taken the word of two policemen, Mike Veale and John Wedger who’s evidence and backstories will only be supported by the likes of the Sun and the Daily Star and of course Mr Gerrish.

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  30. She is backing this new virtual court that will operate online. It sounds like a Kevin Annett type scam. She also thinks that Brian Gerrish is an upstanding honest man, lol.

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  31. I remember the ‘FBI Anon’ supposed insider, when I used to follow r/Conspiracy last year. I can’t quite believe so many people took a completely anonymous source so seriously.
    A quick look at the top posts in the last 24 hours, on the Reddit conspiracy sub-reddit show that Pizzagate related threads are still very popular. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/top/

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  32. Yes i’ve watched her update videos Rev Bruce Howard and she is loving the attention, she thinks that she has become a celebrity overnight.

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  33. The latest ‘insider’ from 4chan is called Q Anon, with every Troofer on YouTube having many videos on that persons posts. The Calm before the storm tag is what a lot of the Hoax mob have been reposting about on social media.
    A list of most of the Q Anon posts that people have taken so seriously.
    http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/tripcode/%21ITPb.qbhqo/page/1/

    and the other one is follow the rabbit, covered here in the Metro.
    http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/20/followthewhiterabbit-is-possibly-the-craziest-conspiracy-theory-of-all-time-7092659/

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  34. Yep, The so-called Pendragons or take back control seems to be the brainchild of Gerrish. Ex EDL members such as Davey Russell who made some nasty claims about impending attacks on ARMY Barracks by ISIS.

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  35. The person who has supposedly leaked details about Jon Venables currently has the most popular post in the last 24 hours on r/conspiracy.
    They also have a YouTube channel full of conspiracy type stuff called “FREE AND FEARLESS”
    I won’t link directly the post or video as I haven’t look through either and it may have information that shouldn’t be on here.

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  36. Whilst Angie is sharing a post about Cannabis Oil, a David Icke article “Children as young as THREE are being read books questioning their gender including one which asks Are You A Boy Or Are You A Girl? “, re-posting some random link to Tony Podesta, and an article from theneedleblog, on Jersey from 2015.
    Wonder why she doesn’t post that blogs coverage of Hampstead?
    https://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/?s=hampstead

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  37. So a detective that showed more common sense than his superiors gets hounded out of his job. Poor bloke, his bosses probably took it out on him for showing them up as fools for believing the wild stories that they were told.

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  38. Listening to Jessica, I think it was no 5, she explains that private companies are gaining funding for this…… I hear you that kids can access anything, but she really makes valid points about why these CSE tapes are dangerous and why she thinks it is happening. I do think sex education and our attitudes generally needed to loosen up, the pendulum has swung too far into this being possible, If you can, watch some of the videos, see what you think, then. We are trying to shut the stable door, too late, but there does need to be some things changed…… I saw tht Google are employing more staff to remove extremist and harmful to children content, recognising too that on alot of Google hangouts, children are being targeted and groomed, bullied and are suffering.

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  39. Btw I’m a little younger, and I thought I was dying when I got my period, that’s how little we knew. I follow a group #RespectYourself on Twitter, who send out messages and are building support for youngsters adversely effected.

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  40. They have now opened a UK office, so it could be an ideal time to raise awareness of this and apply pressure, I think we are far from alone in wanting to demand change. There has to be clear lines drawn in what is acceptable as free speech and what is not, very quick, easy ways to alert authorities to serious concerns, but I have seen that there is a push to recruit more staff to use technology this way…… It’s still taking too long, but what else can we do ? Let;s do it ……. the internet was supposed to work this way , no ? that the truth would rise to the surface and by showing our opinions, votes, likes dislikes etc, then the dross would fall away…… but how many exercise their powers via reporting ? But then, those of us that do, find that their are too many obstacles, it needs to become easier, but with controls re malicious, unwartented reporting, I don’t know how, but those who can, need to figure this stuff out. There’s also been talk of platforms being charged for security which could also be part of the solution.

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  41. And they would know that how ? She never tried at all, whatsoever, nothing she did meant that she did anything but drop them and run. To escape facing up to the consequences, which would have been the only way to possibly remain in contact and possibly retrieve a relationship with her children, even from prison this would have been possible, if she behaved in appropriate ways, accepted help and removed Abe Christie, gave evidence against him and all involved in creating the hoax, which Abe made sure that she would be too terrified to do, she got in too deep and then burnt her bridges.

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  42. In fact Neelu then, clearly does want to protect child abusers, like Belinda she warns people not to report….WTF? So more children & parents can end up in their clutches to either run to ‘safe houses’ that are anything but, be misled by the Sov Cit, Swissindo myths, Stop paying attention to real news, and follow their lead, the useful idiots spoken of in the reason for Pizzagate.

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  43. Yeah, I want to know what Angie makes of it, they’ve tried to mend bridges lately, cos no one is interested, so they are clutching at more straws, wispy broken bits of webs, each other who they detest for one reason or another,,,,,,,, sometimes I really laugh at their antics.

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  44. Journo Ange strikes again! Spreading disinformation from other fake journalists, that even conspiracy theorists on reddit can see right through.

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  45. Nathan Stolpman (Lift The Veil) still has all his Hampstead videos up on Soundcloud in podcast Audio only format. They are also on Itunes as well.
    https://www.google.com/search?as_q=Hampstead&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=https%3A%2F%2Fsoundcloud.com%2Faltnews&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=
    Complete with names and images of the children as the thumbnails.

    The one about Mr Dearman is particularly bad.
    “We’re making fun of Ricky Dearman today”. “Bringing you the truth, trying to change the world, and trying to piss off Ricky Dearman, co he’s a fricken tool, in my opinion. He’s got a small weiner, is what i’m sayin’, which is why he uses those plastic…willies”. All in the first 6 mins.

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  46. Bloody hell, share it in groups even if they don’t want it, yep that is what they do, spam their abusive shit and hate into groups that are trying to get over stuff, heal themselves and find good and workable solutions in a very difficult still issue to have lived through,

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  47. She’s too dumb to realise how much is known, by whom, she thinks that they havn’t all been noticed, and if not already, will be busted, one way or another……their time is numbered, now on the web.

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  48. Vile Nathan, they never seem to take back or remove stuff even when they appear to retract, no, if it’s still getting attn and clicks why not leave that shit out their in case it gains stickyness again, they all make me so sick

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  49. You can report Podcast Audio on Soundcloud, I hope Mr Dearman reports it himself. Nathan’s podcasts are vile to the extreme.

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  50. Answering my own question: on SoundCloud it’s possible to report privacy violations, but only if you are the person involved (or the parent of children involved). This means that unless RD chooses to lodge a complaint, the videos will remain.

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  51. Thanks for that EC. I think this might be for reporting the user in general but when you open up one of the Podcasts, there are these options.

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  52. I have reported it, linked all the offending title url’s in the description along with links to the court documents, RQ’s arrest and a MSM article. I also explained that the interviews were illegally leaked police interviews containing children talking in graphic detail about abuse and the right of the children to privacy.

    I can’ provide all the links as they contain the names. I included links to the channel and included the descriptions of the videos as used by the uploader which includes naming the children and describing material that appeals to paedophiles.

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  53. They originally fell out over the Max Spiers thing, as I recall. Eilish thought it really insensitive of Angela to be spouting her conspiracy crap about his death so soon after he’d died but of course Angela wouldn’t stop.

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  54. That’s the option I went for as others seemed to ask how it related personally to yourself.
    Illegal Content should be the first option surely.
    Mr Slopman is live btw, end of the show taking calls zzzz

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  55. Cassie Crowhurst. Oh dear. Been watching some of her You Tube videos. She should get an award for the number of words she mispronounces, including ‘oath’ (oaf), ‘Lancet’ (Lanclet) and ‘conscript’ (concepts). It got on my nerves!

    Why do so many troofers struggle with basic English?

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  56. I agree with everything there except the ‘oath’ thing. That’s just her accent. I do that myself. It’s normal dahn ‘ere in the sarf-east, innit 😀

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  57. That’s right and I think it was around then that I came across CW Chanter who did a really good blitz on how Miles Johnston & Kerry Csssidy were exploiting him, I noticed videos with other familiar names, the Amaach stuff with Belinda and more around that time. Angie never does any exploration of people before attempting to jump a bandwagon.

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  58. I’m glad I watched this. I’ll be forever grateful to Mr Barnes for the information about underarm protection.

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  59. Well I’m a leper and often a conversation stopper, it took John Paterson along time to try and attack me, and even tho, the attacks have seemed to increase, they have merely exposed what was going on without being acknowledged or recognised, partlly because me and many others for varying reasons wouldn’t or couldn’t expose them without further risk to our families or other victims that we were protefting. But as I have spoken out, so have others too, bit by bit, piece by piece they are falling. Some newbies seem to think that with the bigger hitters losing ground they can fill the gaps, I don’t think so…….

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  60. I saw your post in the chat, I said hello 🙂
    They must know your name, although that channel doesn’t have mods with the wrench logo by them like Nathan’s or Dean’s channels do. That is why they didn’t boot me. Saying every time Titus turned his camera off that he was sacrificing a chicken to Moloch bought come time, lol.

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  61. Debs is an idiot Sheva. She needs a straight jacket like KSC’s “soursez” lol

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  62. They are despicable Sheva! I’m waiting for a bus to shut these crazy bastards up. Her laugh is evil. All decent Folk need a warning. Now I see much clearer what absolute hell these scum have caused Genuine Survivors. On the bright side, Danny “DJ Donkey Punch Masterson, an American actor, accused of 4 vicious, drugging rapes and chokings was finally fired from Netflix sow, The Ranch. Now the LAPD must make a charging decision and cover-up is suspected. Read about self-outted victim B Crissie Bixler, she has large nards like you! The story broke in March but only hit MSM yesterday. Never lose Hope because of the scum. You are supported, loved and believed just ike Brave Crissie whose confrontation with Netflix Kid’s exec last weekend blew the story UP. Leah Remini will be featuring her and two other victims on A&E’s Emmy award winning TV Doc.: Scientology and the Aftermath. I think you may find it very inspiring. I did. (hugs)

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  63. Good. Her MP can send the cops over to commit the insane scammer. She best not be spreading certain actionable libel or she will be in the dock with Costa and her “soursez”. Right Krustard?

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  64. “howIsee” nothing but BS was sued by Pulse nightclub victim, Angel Colon. Mr. Pozner withdrew his latest hoaxer complaint against Scamming Criminal Sandy Hoaxer, Wolfgang Halbig. Iirc.

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  65. I would not be remotely surprised if Russian bots were in some way involved with the Pizzagate hoax – whether it would have made material difference to the election result last year is another matter.

    But, let’s look at the bigger picture, if I may. HRC was a deeply unpopular candidate even within her own party, with all kinds of issues over her past record and history (some based on b.s. conspiracy theories, granted. ) She has never seen a war of aggression she didn’t like, and has regularly been issuing threats against ‘The Russians’, ‘the Iranians’, and so on, so well, ‘blowback’ is hardly surprising.

    And that’s not a defence of either Mr Trump or Putinism (is Putinism a word?)

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  66. Yes, the other side is that the Democratic Party was in disarray from the top down, no denying it. The conspiracy theories involving her and her campaign managers were oddly timed, and given what’s now coming out about Russian involvement in US politics, it’s not unreasonable to suspect their hand in Pizzagate, etc.

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