Ella & Abe claim children lied, troofers remain silent

Well, colour us disappointed.

Over the past week we have dropped a number of bombshells on the Hampstead SRA hoax. We’ve laid it all out as clearly as possible, explained it so that even the hard-of-thinking can grasp the essence of what we’re saying…and demonstrated that several fundamental contradictions illustrate that either the children or Ella and Abe must be lying.

And yet we’ve had nary a nibble from any of the troofers who until last week claimed that Hoaxtead was utterly, completely real, and that the children’s video testimony could never be questioned.

The curious case of the cult boss with no tattoos

We noted that the children had stated on video several times that RD was a lifelong member of the cult—in fact, the “boss” of it—and that the cult was multi-generational, with membership passed from one generation to the next.

From the police ABE interview video with Child Q:

Police: Then you said there’s a bit where your Dad put the brown coloured willy, plastic willy …
Child Q: No but my Dad, my Dad doesn’t have a brown one.
Police: No? What one?
Child Q: He’s the, he’s the boss of the whole religion, the whole culture, he’s the like, the boss.
Police: And what’s this religion called?
Child Q: It’s not called nothing.

And from the Finnbarr interview with Child P:

Finnbarr: So you were saying that your grandmother is in on it as well? Your father’s mother. Or…
Child P: Yes, my father’s mother and my father’s grandmother.
Finnbarr: They are all in on it. Goodness me.
P: Yes. Well you know. Papa’s family, well, RD’s family.
Finnbarr: RD’s family.
P: They’ve got black circles around their eyes. Big patches. Because of the sugar. That’s what Abraham says. My mother knows cause she saw them.
Finnbarr: Right. Very strange.
P: My mum said when we were babies, like the, my father, well, RD’s grandmother she was like mum I don’t know mum saying that the Grandmother saying oh look at that, look at that, like all the time, when we were babies, at our private stuff.

So: the kids, whose testimony is never to be doubted for even a millisecond, have said that RD is the “boss of the whole (curiously nameless) religion”; and that his entire family is “in on it”.

However, Abe is now attempting to claim that unlike every other alleged cult member, who received their genital tattoos in childhood, RD got his in 2013, after he had separated from Ella.

So…were the children lying about the cult being multi-generational? Were they mistaken about RD being the “boss”? Were they making that whole tattoo business up?

Note to Abe: it doesn’t look great when you claim that the children’s testimony is sacrosanct, and then turn around and contradict it. Just saying.

And then there’s the issue of Ella’s ex-husband and eldest son

As if this weren’t enough, we pointed out that according to Nathan Stolpman, who interviewed Ella at some length, she had originally “mentioned that Mr. Draper, her ex-husband, was also involved with the cult, the Satanic cult. I’ve spoken with her now since and asked her about it and she says now she doesn’t believe that was the case and that was maybe something she was prompted into coming up with at the time when she was under duress”.

This, of course, directly conflicts with the video “evidence” given by the children at Jean-Clement Yaohirou’s house on 4 September 2014:

Child Q: Me, and my sister, and my brother don’t have tattoos.
Jean-Clement: No tattoos?
Q: No. If my mum was doing it, if my mum was touching me, I would have had a tattoo right now.
JC: Why is that—
Abe: Tell him about your brother [Xxxxx], tell him about your brother.
Q: Yeah, he doesn’t have it yet, no.
Abe: But tell him what he does.
Q: He does…he touches us, he does, um, sex to us.
Abe: Tell him about…listen to this. Her first husband, basically they picked her. They picked her. They selected her, the mother, they selected her. First husband, he’s one…(aside to child: Shush!)…he’s one, he’s an investment banker. He does, he has a baby with her, and the boy, he done sex with the boy, 17 years….Her first husband. She left him. Her first husband told the second guy, go and get her.

Not to mention one of the original videos, made en route back to the UK from Morocco the previous day:

Ella: What is decided?
Child P: We decided that we shall stop killing babies and we shall stop doing sex. It’s just going to be pointless and it’s just going to have to be going to jail and go back.
Ella: So what are we going to do?  We are going to protect other babies and children, huh? And save all the children that are involved.
Child P: Yes. And [Xxxxx] was in it.
Child Q: When you face the fear you get less fear.

Let’s recap

We have both children, Child P and Child Q, asserting very clearly that their older brother was “in it” and that he “touches us” and “does sex to us”.

And you have both of them stating that their father was the “boss of the whole religion” and that his mother, his grandmother, and indeed his entire family is “in on it”.

And then you have Ella saying that her ex-husband (and by extension the son she had with him) is not in the cult.

And Abraham is saying that RD, unlike every other cult member, and despite being the “boss”, never got around to getting his genital tattoo until he was well shot of Ella. Because reasons.

Right, got it.

So we think it’s fair to conclude from this that the kids really were just repeating stories they’d been told to tell, not things they’d actually experienced. As we’ve maintained all along.

And yet…

And yet not a single troofer, with the exception of some tosser named “Joseph”, has had a single thing to say about these extraordinary developments. They cannot claim they don’t know: we know that the Hoaxtead mob keeps a close eye on this blog, and we’ve been writing about this for a few days now.

But not a word. Not from Kristie Sue, who is usually at the forefront of the charge to defend Ella and to claim that she “believes the children”. Not from Angela, who despite never reading us always seems to know what we’ve said about her. Not from Alan Alanson/Boyes/?, who hovers around this place like a thirsty mosquito. Not Kane Slater…well, all right, that kind of makes sense. He’s usually pretty baked, and it often takes him days or weeks to catch up with the rest of his troofer pals.

So come on, you lot: what do you think? Were the children telling the truth when they were recorded in 2014? Are Abe and Ella telling the truth now?

Because it can’t be both. You’re going to have to choose.

Which side are you on?

93 thoughts on “Ella & Abe claim children lied, troofers remain silent

  1. Yes. You’ve done fantastic work this past week 🙂

    A couple of small points from the interviews you’ve cited above;

    “Child Q: He’s the, he’s the boss of the whole religion, the whole culture, he’s the like, the boss.
    Police: And what’s this religion called?
    Child Q: It’s not called nothing.”

    The cult HAS NO NAME ! And of course, that is because it is imaginary.
    But think about how revealing that was. These are supposed to be the cult leaders kids, no doubt being groomed to succeed him as Dipstick Shyster claims he was being groomed to succeed his father. Yet, the cult has apparently never revealed to these children, what they call themselves. In their whole lives, no cult member has even used their name for the group in front of them! BS!

    “P: Yes. Well you know. Papa’s family, well, RD’s family.
    Finnbarr: RD’s family.
    P: They’ve got black circles around their eyes. Big patches. Because of the sugar. That’s what Abraham says. My mother knows cause she saw them.
    Finnbarr: Right. Very strange.
    P: My mum said when we were babies, like the, my father, well, RD’s grandmother she was like mum I don’t know mum saying that the Grandmother saying oh look at that, look at that, like all the time, when we were babies, at our private stuff”.

    Here, we have several very blatant reveals that Abe & Ella are the source of “what the children know” about this alleged cult, rather than the children knowing anything from experience.
    “Abraham says” that RD’s family have black circles around their eyes, “because of the sugar”. That’s what Abe told the children. And…”mother knows cause she saw them” – Ella confirms this information about the grandparents, from Abe, to the kids. Notice she didn’t say: “I know this, cause I saw them”.
    And “…mum saying that the Grandmother saying oh look at that, look at that, like all the time, when we were babies, at our private stuff” – so, this isn’t from the child’s own memory. It is a story that Ella TOLD the children, about RD’s family being perverts!

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    • That’s the brainstorming sessions and the working on this thing for a month that Abraham mentioned.

      Not coached at all

      Ella: So what are we going to do? We are going to protect other babies and children, huh? And save all the children that are involved.

      All the children except her eldest eh! Ella doesn’t mention him in her appeals for justice for the “Hampstead Two”.

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    • Yes, absolutely right. The bit about the cult with no name leapt off the screen at me when I saw it; what kind of cult has no name, no creed, no nothing? I was raised in a cult called the Anglican Church, and by the age of 8 I could recite the Apostle’s Creed and the Nicene Creed, knew any number of hymns by heart, and knew the basics of Christ’s birth, life, death, and resurrection. And I wasn’t going to church every day–this was all gleaned from once per week visits of a couple of hours. I would have expected that the kids might know a bit more about the beliefs and rituals of the so-called cult by the age of 8 or 9. Instead, they can only recite the parts that Abe is interested in–the bits about sodomy, cruelty, murder, and cannibalism.

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    • I have never picked up on that before but it is an excellent point. The girl was easily able to remember the name of the person in the photo frame she hit her brother with (i can’t actually remember it). The person they were praying to. Yet we are to believe they are the cult boss’s children but do not know what sort of cult it is or who they are sacrificing babies for. Another clear sign this was all made up and Abraham has been changing and filling the blanks with all sorts of nonsense. Settling now for his state sponsored trauma based mind control.

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  2. I get the distinct impression that the children can’t even remember their paternal grandparents, yet the hoaxers are so certain that they must be in a cult, because of reasons of course.

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  3. Mad-Moo starts her typically ignorant contribution to the London Bridge debate by saying, “A distraction is needed.” Oh the irony.

    Come on, troofers – stop changing the subject and answer the question about Will Draper…

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  4. Sounds like Kristie Sue’s sticking to her guns, despite knowing she’s in the wrong. Hands up who’s surprised…

    Once again, Kristie Sue has demonstrated that she is perfectly happy to post uncensored videos of the children with their faces in full view, despite claiming that she never does this. Here are the caption parts of the vid which don’t show the children’s faces (or offer any answers, facts, truth or insights):

    https://www.facebook. com/profile.php?id=100011629080073

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    • And yet she never, ever, ever wonders why Ella didn’t mention her eldest child in the complaint that she sent to the IPCC? I mean, if I had a child that I believed was in the clutches of a cannibalistic child killing and raping cult being groomed for an adulthood of a weekly appointment for murder and rape followed by spaghetti bolognese made with baby mince I wouldn’t forget to mention it to the police when I went through an official complaints process about the way they handled an investigation into baby school dinners. I wouldn’t like, just not mention I was bothered about my child number three not being interviewed and rescued.

      What about child number three then? Eh? Never really mentions him does she?

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      • Child #3 is both included in the hoax via Ella’s video “witness statement” and excluded, as she ignores him for the most part. She clearly had some ambivalence about him, as she and Abe ensured that RD’s children mentioned him…and yet, as you say, he’s only referred to occasionally, and then rather casually, like an afterthought. Hardly typical behaviour for a parent who believes her child’s life is at stake.

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        • No word from the truthers. Perhaps they are all to embarrassed to admit that they have been duped, lied to from the start. These folk who think they are so ‘awake’ have fallen for the tall story told by a common criminal.

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    • So KSC is accusing Stolpman of manufacturing that part of his interview with Ella? Fascinating. She should know that he’s quite egotistical and won’t take kindly to her accusations.

      And she should know that we didn’t just pull Ella’s sudden about-face out of a hat. We got it from one of her fellow troofers who interviewed Ella and would have no reason to lie about what she said.

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    • Just like her rigid, cold Bible-thumping mother, then. Thought as much.

      Can’t stop to think that she might be wrong or that she’s being fed lies by people with an agenda. Just goes around shouting about the devil and the evil-doers and “You’ve just got to BELIEVE!!!” and suchlike.

      Hoaxtead has become Kris’s religion, and Facebook is her pulpit.

      Congrats, Kristie Sue, you’ve turned into Mom. Your kids are gonna have some fab stories to tell their shrinks.

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      • I think it works along similar lines to a record being stuck.Basically David repeatedly runs himself over before he can formulate exactly where the fuck he was going in the first place ad nauseum.I believe the tune may be “we`ll meet again” by Vera lynn although I cant be absolutely sure.

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      • Necrodave loves the attention. When nobody mentions him for a while he starts saying shit like “They are scared to mention me” He loves it because he is an attention seeker and a manipulator. He is like one of those people that sets a house on fire and puts it out so he looks like a hero, he has infiltrated all the survivor and TI groups that he can, most have seen what a fraud he is though. Getting caught out about Jacob Wetterling has totally exposed him.

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      • For someone that doesn’t give a hoot about this blog, he sure spends a lot of time talking about us. Surely he would be better off checking out all the rocks that The Order have planted in his garden.

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        • David even managed to form a maniacal plot about the dog collar left on his porch.Given he has dogs no doubt some kindly soul found it nearby and thought it a fair chance it could belong there. I can understand why kindly soul wouldnt knock for fear of receiving a torrent of abuse or worse given Davids highly erratic and volitile temperament.

          This interpretation of this simple act of kindness represents the quite horrendously dark,disharmonic thought processes currently afflicting Davids inner world.The guy is a risk both to himself and others and needs a minimum of time out for an assessment before he topples right off the cliff and matters go beyond the point of no return.

          I think it may have been Justin who previously pointed out just because someone is off their trolley does not automatically let them off the hook from responsibilty as chances are they were nasty self possessed bastards pretty much from the get go and the cumulative splash back of years of shit generation has woven its own inevitable consequences.

          There is a saying that by the age of 50 we all have the face we deserve.David appears to be living evidence of this particular aphorism.

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  5. Ella feeding a raw food diet = Constipation and hard stools that when passed can cause scarring.
    Ella giving enema’s = Reflex Anal Dilation (RAD) and potential scarring.
    RAD is highly discredited as a means of indicating abuse.
    Scarring and skin fold examinations were deemd to be within the range of normal variants.
    Any abuse was also also deemed to be recent, the children hadn’t seen their father for over three months so this points to Abe and Ella trying to fake abuse signs, and/or Ella’s dietary and enema treatments causing any potential issues.
    Abraham was mentioned in the medical documents as the physical abuser by the children, Ella was named repeatedly as having neglected the children in the years running up to the start of the Hoax.
    Six years long custody battle where the father had only recently gained access to see his children, and Ella had not allowed him access before.
    Ella in desperation mode speaks to a member of the Yoga class she teaches about her custody battle with the father. The lady she mentions this to is Belinda MacKenzie with a long history of scamming behaviour and jumping on child abuse hoax bandwagons.

    Belinda introduces Abraham as a solution to Ella’s problems despite being a lifelong criminal with 37 previous convictions and a recent police caution for abusing his own teenage son.

    Soon after meeting the children and moving into the family home, Abraham has altercations with teachers and staff at the school, after arriving shirtless and being abusive to the two children and others.
    The children’s raw food diet had made them so hungry and malnourished they have resorted to eating food out of the school bins. Abraham is furious as this goes against sticking to his and Ella’s raw food diet, and blames the school staff for poisoning the children, “Meat is Murder”.

    The police is informed and this makes Abe furious. He already has a grudge against the police through years of alteracations, prison time, convictions and arrests that date as far back as his youth detention days. Abe is a self confessed “non Conformist”, Ella is an outsider from Russia, still living off her ex husbands stipend, both are strung out on long term drug abuse.

    Ella has a hatred of social services for being reported many times previously for child neglect.
    Both are bitter and twisted individuals in desperation mode as Abraham’s Hemp business is already failing and Ella has run up huge debts living in an expensive suburb and property she cannot afford to rent.

    Lifelong scammer, violent criminal, drug dealer and pimp Abe, puts a plan in motion to solve all their financial woes, and also blackmail the father into giving up the custody battle he is close to winning.

    Abe and Ella take the children out of Europe, to a friends farm in Morocco breaching a court order.
    Isolated and alone with a mother who allows Abraham to bully, drug,deprive of sleep, torture and abuse the chilodren into repeating his Satanic panic fantasies and practice his own form of Trauma Based Mind Control (TBMC), which Abe renames Spoon Based Mind Control (SBMC).

    After 4 weeks of what can only be described as torture and pure hell on earth, the children are at breaking point, scared, abandoned, and willing to repeat and agree with anything Abraham says.

    Abraham makes short videos of the children, clearly looking drugged, deprived of sleep, malnourished and showing signs of injuries to the face. In these videos, Abe coaches and prompts the children along with Ella, even getting excited when he makes them repeat tales of baby killing “kill the babies, kill the babies”.
    Most shocking for dealing with cases of child abuse, the children seem completely nonchalont in talking about graphic abuse in the same manner they talk about everyday things, there is no change in emotion or tone whatsoever. Both children repeat in tendem from the same script in a clear bid to please the man who has groomed them. Sickeningly, these video’s of the children talking about sexual abuse and the murder of babies, are filmed in public places with people in the background who can overhear everything.

    The secret Jean Clement recording shows Abraham to be a control freak and a bully who leads the wholes conversation, prompting and correcting the two children.

    The plans to blackmail the father and return to Morocco are scuppered by Jean Clement recording the conversation.

    The plan is not ready, and Abe and Ella are in panic mode.

    The Enema kits Ella used on the children could possibly be where the ideas for the plastic multi coloured, different sized willies came from.

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    • I think that about sums it up.

      I really feel this may have been an attempted blackmail situation which is why Mr Draper was included. Two objectives: frighten off RD and get the other ex-husband to pony up a large sum of money and increase those payments. As a businessman he may have felt it was much easier in the long run.

      Fly in the ointment : upon viewing the videos Jean immediately (being a good copper) goes straight to police and blows Abraham Christie’s well crafted plot.
      Well that’s my view.

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    • Sabine says in this video (which sabine has complained about for ‘defamation’ and has been blocked in the UK but is available to watch with a VPN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJcqSx2VxM.) that Ella contacted her, (probably after she met her at Bikram Yoga, which they both practice), and then she introduced her to the other McKenzies, ie Belinda.

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    • “I do want to point out that Spiny Norman just above this, never responded back to my reply to him. Wanna guess why? He had no answer for what I pointed out. He tuck his tail and ran.”

      Er…oookay. Here’s me tucking in my tail and running – apparently – from the comment Dilgence refers to:

      No bullshit there, then.

      He never replied to me, by the way – he just…er…tucked in his tail and ran.

      Oh and I do want to point out that Diligence never responded back to Liza’s reply to him:

      https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2017/05/20/why-the-original-interviews-are-unbelievable/#comment-69520

      Wanna guess why? He had no answer for what she pointed out. He tucked in his tail and ran.

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    • “I am no longer allowed to post on Hoaxtead…It appears as if they can not handle what I dish!”

      Er…yeah, Goofy Troofy. We’re fecking terrified of you.

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    • Oh so KSC isn’t fond of people spreading disinfo about her online and yet she is more than happy to do it herself about innocent people. She can’t have it both ways.

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      • Kristie Sue takes stupid to a whole new level. She genuinely believes that because someone makes a comment about having kids, they must be Ricky Dearman, because hey, Ricky has kids too. LOL! (Oh and I was only talking about hypothetical kids to make a point anyway, lol.)

        Oh and because I said that the videos of the children are illegal – which they are – that proves I’m Ricky too! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

        I’m actually glad, to be honest, because as long as this knuckle-scraping freak spends all her time scrambling round like an imbecile thinking I’m him, my real identity is safe, hehe. It also means that she must have fallen out with Malcolm Konrad Ogilvy, who stated categorically on his blog that I’m Maggs Shaw O’Neill; Bronwyn Llewellyn, who stated that I’m Danielle la Verite; Angela Power-Disney, who stated that I’m some bloke from California; Heather Brown, Angela Power-Disney (again) and Alan Alanson, who stated that I’m Sheva Burton; and several other of Kristie Sue’s ex-mates who stated that I’m Yannis Emmanuel!!! Sooo funny!

        Mind you, Kristie sue is someone who utterly believes that Bridget Yorke is Charlotte Ward, haha! No wonder she’s known as the “defective detective”.

        I’ve blocked the scabby bint now, because the desperate moo is blatantly taking my comments out of context in order to slander me and to deflect from my simple yes/no question about Will Draper. Was he in the cult or not? Yes or no? The fact that she’s now been asked this literally dozens of times and still hasn’t answered proves that she knows she’s been caught out. it’s fun to touch nerves with these drooling fuckards and to watch them squirm.

        By the way, have you noticed that she spends 24/7 trolling the internet and never spends time with her husband and kids? Let’s just say there are issues (allegedly) and that’s putting it mildly. They’re well known in their neighbourhood and they’ve had the police sent out to them on more than one occasion.

        I’ve blocked the nasty little cow now, as I no longer wish to hurt my eyes with her epic stupidity and lies and I’m sick of her deliberately misrepresenting my comments. She calls herself a Christian yet is one of the most evil liars around.

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      • Kristie Sue has been quoting Nathan ‘Lift the Veil’ Stolpman, which is hilarious, as he’s the one who’s stated that Ella has done a U-turn and admitted that Will Draper wasn’t in the cult! LOL!

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  6. During the late 1990’s in England, a scientist by the name of Jennifer Luke undertook the first study into the effects of sodium fluoride on the pineal gland. She determined that the pineal gland, located in the middle of the brain, was a target for fluoride. The pineal gland simply absorbed more fluoride than any other physical matter in the body, even bones.

    Because of the pineal gland’s importance to the endocrine and endocannabinoid systems her conclusions were a breakthrough. Her study provided the missing link to a lot of physiological damage from sodium fluoride that had been hypothesised but not positively connected. A veritable root source for the chain reaction of blocked endocrine and endocannabinoid activity had been isolated.

    Subjugation of the PINEAL gland pharmacologically or manually, as in the rite of Sodomy, disrupts the mechanism whereby the pineal secretes melatonin and stimulates Melanocyte Stimulating Hormone MSH secretion.
    This is how caucasians and other Rainbow children are prevented from achieving their GOLDEN potential.
    Melanocytes are melanin producing cells.
    Epidermal melanocytes produce melanin ; the bio-logical pigmented semi conductor which facilitates the absorption of full spectrum light, cosmic radiation and SOUND. Cosmic consciousness.
    Good news though, a diet rich in essential fatty acids and colloidal calcium within a whole food matrix, and frequent exposure to outdoor sunshine, 20 minutes or so at a time, will help stimulate and reactivate a fluoride calcified pineal gland.
    The best source of these EFA’s is hempseed, the fruit of the Cannabis/hemp plant.

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    • The above text is Abrahams writing. In it he mentions Caucasian children don’t produce Melanin. This is what black Hebrew Israelites preach and they say it makes the white man the devil. Is this how Abraham perceived the two children? was he trying to “beat the devil out of them” with all the awful stuff he put them through?

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        • “Epidermal melanocytes produce melanin ; the bio-logical pigmented semi conductor which facilitates the absorption of full spectrum light, cosmic radiation and SOUND. Cosmic consciousness.
          Good news though, a diet rich in essential fatty acids and colloidal calcium within a whole food matrix, and frequent exposure to outdoor sunshine, 20 minutes or so at a time, will help stimulate and reactivate a fluoride calcified pineal gland.
          “The best source of these EFA’s is hempseed, the fruit of the Cannabis/hemp plant”.

          Does anyone else notice that in one of the first set of videos this little exchange takes place:

          Q: I ate babies and I feel really weak about it. Really weak. Not strong. When I eat hemp I feel really strong.

          Abe: Tell the camera.

          Q: When I eat hemp I feel really strong and really strong

          Ella: When you eat hemp?

          Q: Yes, and I feel really powerful, but when I eat meat I feel really, really weak. And when I eat …


          Does this sound to you like a nice little advert for the healing powers of hemp? Something one might be able to use later, when selling hemp as a cure for “SRA” or “Trauma-based Mind Control”?

          Just asking.

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          • Abraham Christie had said he wanted to set up a centre for so-called victims of his bonkers “trauma based mind control” fantasies. I can’t for the file of me remember where and when that was. It might not be totally accurate.

            Also, on a Cody/Guidance2222 video, the one with a street scene thumbnail which I think is gone now, Abraham says that he was researching alternative media people in Morocco. As far as my faulty memory remembers anyway.

            The conspirasheep really need to dig down to their atrophied conscience and think about whether they would trust Abraham with a child for any length of time, especially let off the leash to run riot with his hemp and spoon.

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        • Its looking that way. Christie has just spewed this bullshit back at me.Draper doesn’t seem to have any problems in moving around : How to quit banking after 13 years and find a new job in 1 month

          So, imo this points to connections with the UK intelligence services and the Vatican. And of course, Mr. Draper apparently is also a Royal Arch Mason which implies the highest level connections https://www.henrymakow.com/maltese-paedophile-network.html

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        • I think Abe is a bitter old con, “a non conformist” as he says, who hates everybody and everything.
          He made a joke about Jean Clement being embarassing over the sexual descriptions of the tattoo’s in that recording. He mentioned if JC wasn’t Black, they would be able to see him blushing right now.
          I don’t think it’s Abe being racist against white children, but maybe they are his sexual preference.
          He did seem to be especially interested in the girl in particular, like much of the Troofers are, looking at Truth1 here and his hundreds of screenshots he has collected of her on his webshiite/pedo blog.

          Ella and her children were just the perfect opportunity for him to try out his ideas of Trauma Based Mind Control. I guess he did have some success with that in torturing, drugging, sleep depriving, using water, hitting them with spoons into giving in to his demands.

          Essentially Abraham groomed the two children through physical and verbal abuse.
          That is why it’s very dangerous with all these fruitcakes believing in and even practising TBMC.
          Let’s just hope he never gets the chance to try his obsession with Marion Knox’s ideas out on some poor child. I think a lot of these types of people get off on having the opportunity Abraham did, they choose to live out their fantasies through Abe’s stories implanted into the children.

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  7. Nasty bitch

    Is she just jumping on this false flag crap in a desperate attempt to make new troofer friends now that all her other mates have turned their backs on her?

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      • Kristie Sue takes stupid to a whole new level. She genuinely believes that because someone makes a comment about having kids, they must be Ricky Dearman, because hey, Ricky has kids too. LOL! (Oh and I was only talking about hypothetical kids to make a point anyway, lol.)

        Oh and because I said that the videos of the children are illegal – which they are – that proves I’m Ricky too! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

        I’m actually glad, to be honest, because as long as this knuckle-scraping freak spends all her time scrambling round like an imbecile thinking I’m him, my real identity is safe, hehe. It also means that she must have fallen out with Malcolm Konrad Ogilvy, who stated categorically on his blog that I’m Maggs Shaw O’Neill; Bronwyn Llewellyn, who stated that I’m Danielle la Verite; Angela Power-Disney, who stated that I’m some bloke from California; Heather Brown, Angela Power-Disney (again) and Alan Alanson, who stated that I’m Sheva Burton; and several other of Kristie Sue’s ex-mates who stated that I’m Yannis Emmanuel!!! Sooo funny!

        Mind you, Kristie sue is someone who utterly believes that Bridget Yorke is Charlotte Ward, haha! No wonder she’s known as the “defective detective”.

        I’ve blocked the scabby bint now, because the desperate moo is blatantly taking my comments out of context in order to slander me and to deflect from my simple yes/no question about Will Draper. Was he in the cult or not? Yes or no? The fact that she’s now been asked this literally dozens of times and still hasn’t answered proves that she knows she’s been caught out. it’s fun to touch nerves with these drooling fuckards and to watch them squirm.

        By the way, have you noticed that she spends 24/7 trolling the internet and never spends time with her husband and kids? Let’s just say there are issues (allegedly) and that’s putting it mildly. They’re well known in their neighbourhood and they’ve had the police sent out to them on more than one occasion.

        I’ve blocked the nasty little cow now, as I no longer wish to hurt my eyes with her epic stupidity and lies and I’m sick of her deliberately misrepresenting my comments. She calls herself a Christian yet is one of the most evil liars around.

        Oh and she’s also been quoting Nathan ‘Lift the Veil’ Stolpman, which is hilarious, as he’s the one who’s stated that Ella has done a U-turn and admitted that Will Draper wasn’t in the cult! LOL!

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        • Ah, thanks! I thought it might be those videos, but then couldn’t work out why she was bringing them up again. And yes, she is thick as two short planks, that one. Glad you blocked her; who needs that kind of grief?

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    • KSC should definately consider the merits of creating a random word generating robot thing to do her posts for her.

      That would free her up to do something else(like not being a total idiot for example)whilst also avoiding the squrmungous ignominy of an embarassing public climbdown for backing the wrong horse(and Abe) in the face of the fucking facts..

      Whatsmore if the law of probability is anything to go by she could one day potentially post something vaguely worth reading.

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  8. I’m very late to the discussion but I did wonder if the duress mentioned in the recent Ella retractions came from the McN/McK camp – perhaps a grain of truth – finally. Is it possible that they worked with that disgusting woman to manufacture the narrative to suit their own preconcieved and nefarious ends. I believe they did.
    I just can’t get my head around why the authorities have completely failed to charge these monsters. Ffs it cannot serve to protect the public/other children to let known child abusers the freedom to continue – what message does that send? Should this continue to happen the authorities will have this on their conscience for completely failing to protect children.

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    • @TN: ‘ Is it possible that they worked with that disgusting woman to manufacture the narrative to suit their own preconcieved and nefarious ends. I believe they did?’
      Possible: Once Belinda had been made aware of the two blonde eyed children, she considered with Sabine whether this could be the ‘case we have been waiting for’. Sabine had written about that on her blog.

      If you read Charlotte Ward’s/Jackie Farmer’s Illuminati Party, she describes Belinda, her landlady, as someone who believed her own daughter is/was possessed and did various rituals to rid her of this supposed affliction, maybe pouring water like Abe did over the head of the ‘victim’.

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  9. She a twat Spiny! I pity her neighbours and local police. A train wreck! So, any news on the People No one is Waiting for getting run out on a rail or should I say Windmill? Bwahaha!

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