A social worker speaks out about SRA

We’ve mentioned before how much we appreciate the messages of support and information that come in every day on our “Contact Us” inbox. A couple of weeks ago, we heard from a long-time reader who offered us some fascinating insight into how the Satanic panic of the 1980s and 1990s swept through the mental health community. With permission, we’re sharing her story here.

In 1989, I started working as a clinical social worker in the northeastern USA. I worked with a mental health team in a large inner-city hospital, and my job was to offer counselling and support on an outpatient basis. That is, my clients weren’t hospitalized, but had been referred to our Outpatient Psychiatry department.

At that time, the diagnosis of “multiple personality disorder,” which would later be called “dissociative identity disorder,” was new on the scene and quite controversial. The theory was that people who had undergone very severe emotional and physical trauma in childhood had somehow learned to “self-hypnotize,” and their personalities would split up, because it was the only way they could deal with the trauma they’d experienced. Not all mental health professionals believed that this was possible, but enough did that the theory began to take hold and spread. In the clinic where I worked, it was assumed that the theory was correct. The head social worker in our clinic promoted the idea of MPD (later DID) with evangelical zeal.

One of my early clients at that clinic was a young woman I’ll call Jane. I was not Jane’s first therapist. She had been seeing an unlicensed counselor for about a year, who had discovered that Jane had MPD, and that she had been a victim of ritualistic abuse by her grandfather and a number of people he associated with. When I first met Jane she seemed quite withdrawn and hesitant.

As I worked with Jane, she would periodically “switch” personalities, especially when we touched on subjects that were difficult for her. Whenever she switched, it would be preceded by her breathing growing shallow. She would roll her eyes, shudder briefly, and then start talking as a different “alter.” There was a very young girl who seemed to constantly seek approval; an older pre-teen girl who swore like a sailor; a sullen teen-aged boy who would often refuse to speak to me, lapsing into long, awkward silences. Then the alter would start breathing shallowly, roll their eyes, and Jane would reappear, seeming dazed.

Over time, Jane told me about the abuse she’d suffered at the hands of her grandfather, who she said was the leader of a Satanic cult in the suburbs of our city. She described the cult as a small group of men and women who chanted, sang, danced, and raped children. She said she had only very fragmented memories of the group’s activities, but her “young girl” alter cheerfully filled in the details: she said that all the cult members had mastered the art of flying, but that they never did it in public, only when they were in private at their rituals. They held barefoot rituals in a local cemetery, even in winter. (This struck me as odd, because winters in that city were notoriously brutal, with temperatures well below freezing and heavy snowfalls that left the ground permanently blanketed with snow from early December until March.

Things grew odder still: Jane told me she had never reported her abuse to the police, as she felt they wouldn’t believe her. I began to wonder: who was Jane’s grandfather? I began to make enquiries. This was in the days before the internet, so I asked a friend who was a police officer in the Sexual Assault unit to help me identify Jane’s grandfather. A few days later, she came back to me with some surprising news: no such person existed.

At around this time, Jane began to reveal some disturbing facts about her previous counsellor. She talked about how hard it had been when she first started to recover her traumatic memories, and how her previous counsellor had “helped” her by making suggestions, to which Jane could nod yes or no. Whenever Jane would reveal a particularly painful detail, such as being raped with the end of a broomstick, the counsellor would smile and nod encouragingly. It was during this time that Jane first began to experience “switching” into her alter personalities.

She said her counselor had been fascinated with her MPD symptoms, and would sometimes call others into her office to observe Jane’s “alters” in action. Jane said she felt like a trained seal, but that she didn’t feel she could object because the counselor was “helping her so much.” When I asked her how she’d been helped, Jane said that she’d uncovered many deeply buried memories. However, during the year she’d spent with that counsellor, Jane felt that her problems in coping had grown worse, not better.

During the two years we spent in counselling, I deliberately adopted an approach that was the direct opposite of what Jane had experienced with her previous counsellor. When she switched into an alter personality, I would pay little attention, and continue talking about the subject we’d been discussing. While I didn’t discourage her from talking about the abuse she’d suffered at the hands of her grandfather’s cult, nor did I encourage it. I let her lead the conversation. By the time Jane felt ready to leave our sessions, she had completely stopped manifesting her alter personalities. She said she no longer had intrusive memories of having been sexually abused, and she thought that perhaps she’d dreamed about some aspects, such as cult members’ ability to fly, or their dead-of-winter graveyard rituals.

This experience led me to wonder about the phenomenon of MPD/DID: how much of it was really iatrogenic (induced by treatment), and how much occurred naturally? I began to look at the field more critically, and noticed that many of my colleagues who believed in MPD seemed to have an unusually large number of clients who exhibited MPD traits. I began to feel concerned about the almost religious zeal with which those colleagues seemed to promote the MPD/SRA agenda. If I raised even the mildest of objections, I was accused of failing my clients by not validating their abuse experiences. It felt just a bit too much like the accusations of apostasy that were hurled at those who dared to speak out against witch-hunts.

Gradually, though, I found that many of my colleagues who had adopted the MPD/SRA belief system holus bolus in the late 1980s seemed less interested in it as time went on. Cases like the McMartin Preschool debacle left many people feeling embarrassed that they’d supported what amounted to latter-day witch-hunts. By the end of the 1990s, the vast majority of practitioners that I knew had stopped diagnosing MPD. Interestingly, this coincided with an upswing in diagnoses of PTSD, or post-traumatic stress disorder. By the time I left the field in 2005, most of the clinical social workers I knew had completely turned their backs on the MPD/SRA model.

I am still slightly agnostic about DID as a diagnosis. I cannot prove that it doesn’t exist…but I can certainly say that in my 20 years of clinical experience I don’t believe I ever encountered a true case. While Jane’s first counsellor did her a massive disservice, leaving her more damaged than when she started, I feel that if I hadn’t seen Jane and understood how she’d been led to believe she had multiple personalities as a result of extreme sexual abuse by a Satanic cult, I might have missed the opportunity to take a hard, critical look at my own profession’s gullibility and short-sightedness.

Michelle Remembers

49 thoughts on “A social worker speaks out about SRA

  1. Very Interesting there are some documents that I know of that may be of interest that were released by authorities for FBI Agents to Follow.

    From “The National Criminal Justice Reference Service”
    (Free to Download from Official DOJ Site)

    US Department of Justice – FBI Investigator’s Guide to Allegations of “Ritual” Child Abuse
    NCJ 136592, 1992, (46 pages)

    Click to access 136592NCJRS.pdf

    Satanic Cult Awareness
    NCJ 140554, G W Hurst; R L Marsh, Unknown, (49 pages) 1993

    Click to access 140554NCJRS.pdf

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  2. Fascinating.
    This account will of course be dismissed by the real cultists, those who promote satanic abuse and that social worker will be dismissed as a paid ‘disinformation agent’ of the world-wide Freemason etc Cult.

    Since the rise of the internet this subject has exploded and expanded to now include not just fathers & grandfathers, family members etc, but basically everyone who is in power right up to presidents, prime ministers , heads of state, royal family members and so on.
    And the fact all the accounts like the one above are remarkably similar are claimed as proof & evidence rather that the obvious, the promoters of this stuff from David Icke to the 1000s of amateurs bloggers are like a grand Round Robin game of confirmation.

    One tiny example I mentioned before is the claim that has now become an internet meme, is that one abuse claimant says the Catholic Church wrote to him in the early 90s and confirmed Satanic abuse had taken place within the church and that letter has now been published on dozens of websites.

    The letter says no such thing but it is impossible to tell any of this mob when it is there in black and white : the letter says the church accepts the man was sexually abused, offers him sympathy and expresses regrets and recommends he is eligible for financial compensation. The words ‘ritual’, ‘satanism’ etc do not appear. It’s a small example of how these real cultists operate.

    And over my life I have met so many people who have been subject to unimaginable horrors that the notion they could adopt a convenient new personality within their minds to escape those memories would be something I am sure they would willingly grab as a way to escape such memories.

    People who have survived the horror of concentration camps as children during WW2 and who witnessed or survived murderous terrors, some who fled Iraq as adults or children and even those who were in the midst of IRA bombing campaigns. One such IRA incident – I heard 3 IRA bombs go off in London as no doubt 10,000s did, was the Harrods’ bombing which happened while I was walking across Hyde Park to meet a friend at that store. He was killed by that bomb, his body thrown to the roof of Harrods.

    Years later I met the wife of a prominent police commander who had been a young WPC who happened to be on duty around Harrods that morning. Her colleague ran to the a section outside the store when they got a message of a possible bomb, while she sauntered behind only to witness the bomb explode and her colleague literally evaporate before her eyes. It took therapy for her to recover but I’m sure if we both could have just switched to a new personality it would be so much easier.

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  3. The second website ‘Satanic Cult Awareness’ is quite wacky and like a blueprint for how the hoaxers operate.
    As it’s a PHD it seems to have been accepted without question.
    It gets many things right like correctly associating all the fellow travelers- Freeman of The Land loonies etc and long before most of us had heard of them but then seems to accept every satanist fantasy that currently sweeps the net despite there never having been a prosecution of an alleged satanic cult although there has been the occasional prosecution of some would-be ‘satanists’ who generally turn out to old fashioned wife-swappers with some progressing to child abuse.

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  4. The first of these two pdfs, the one by Ken Lanning, was the gold standard of rational police training on the subject, when it was published. The most ‘evidence based’ analysis available for a long time.

    The second pdf, however, is not a good one. In the forward, the authors acknowledge and thank three of the primary fraudulent “experts” and satanic panic promoters of that time: Dale Griffis, Detective Sandi Gallant and Lt. Larry Jones.

    By the way, @wanqsteadtokerzajchateskids – I left you a long comment on the previous blog article’s comment thread.

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  5. Basic premise of MPD/DID falsifies itself.
    – Minimal Self: the awareness of Self in the immediate here-and-now. The Minimal Self has two components;
    – Sense of Self-agency, “I am the person doing this, thinking this, saying this, etc.”
    – Sense of Self-ownership, “I am the person experiencing this, this is happening to my body, to my mind, to my feelings, etc.”

    Here is the basic premise underlying the belief that “alternate personalities” or Alters, spontaneously arise out of a traumatized child’s “dissociation reflex”:

    – when a child experiences trauma/suffering that they cannot escape from, physically, they can still escape the trauma/suffering mentally – through a reflexive, involuntary dissociation process

    – this dissociation process involves the “splitting off” of a secondary personality, who will “take over” and experience the trauma/suffering, retaining a memory of it, in the place of the original or master personality who may have no memory of it

    The point of all this, is to ESCAPE SUFFERING. It makes sense that, if a child who was being raped could change their perception from “I am being raped” to ” ‘some other person’ is being raped”, that might alleviate some of their suffering. This would be a severe episode of dissociative depersonalization, where one component of the MInimal Self – the Sense of Self-ownership – has been disrupted, has ‘collapsed’ or become inactive.

    Episodes of dissociative depersonalization – where the experience of “this is happening to me” (Self-ownership) fades out and is replaced by a sense of “this seems to be happening, not to me, but to ‘some other person’ ” – are not that uncommon, when a person is “in shock” or under extreme stress. It is sometimes expressed as an “out of body experience”. Example: “When the other driver’s car struck mine, I suddenly had the sensation that I was hovering outside of and above my car, as though watching an accident involving two other people”.

    This is NOT THE SAME phenomenon as “splitting off” a new personality, a new “I” or “switching to” a different personality, a different “I”.
    “I”, whatever identity it carries, must experience both Sense of self-agency and Sense of self-ownership. In an episode of dissociative depersonalization there is a failure of the Sense of self- ownership, which means that for however long this episode lasts, there would be no “I” experiencing it. The internal visual ‘camera’ can record what is going on, but there would be no internal cameraman with awareness of self.

    This is what MPD/DID theorists claim is taking place:
    “I-Bob” is being raped and the suffering is intolerable, so “I-Bob” collapses and Sense of self-ownership is taken over by “I-Sam”.
    “I-Sam” is still being raped and possesses Sense of self-ownership, so “I-Sam” is going to experience intolerable suffering. The suffering has not been escaped, or alleviated or mitigated in any way. A switch of identities can’t help the victim, if the Minimal Self – experiencing Sense of self-agency and Sense of self-ownership – remains functional.

    Even if it was possible, “splitting off” a new personality couldn’t help a victimized person escape their suffering, so that can’t be how or why alters come into being.

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  6. This is far too complicated for Angie Power Disney’s single brain cell – how would she ever cope with a well written, considered and argued look at an issue – especially when the work is wrote by a person who is both academically and experience qualified…….

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  7. In the wrong hands, counselling and psychotherapy is a dangerous profession. And it is extremely difficult to hold your ground in a group that does not agree with you, eg staff group in this account. As is any therapy that suggests it has an ‘evidence-base’ when, if examined, its results are really contaminated, in that scores given by the patient is influenced by the process that harvests it: It relies upon scores or judgement of the therapist (via improvement or deterioration of scores, clients ‘get’ this, they don’t want to seem as if they are ungrateful when someone is nodding and smiling at them….) given to the therapist, eg, in cbt [cognitive behavioural therapy], where score sheets have to be filled out at the end of a session. And if that is frightening, then multiply those results and realise that the UK relies on such scoring methods to endorse and practice in this particular modality (cbt) for a host of common complaints such as anxiety and depression. As the ‘other’ psychotherapists did not give out score sheets, understanding the underlying dynamics that go with such questionnaires, they won the ‘evidence based, clinically proven, effective treatment money pot, when in reality the whole process needs to be examined. There are tiny things that might have enormous impact over the course of a number of years, that could have started with therapist silence, and the client coming to the conclusion themselves: truly a powerful moment that defies ‘outcome measurements’.

    Good therapists are hard to find. The person who was the second therapist in this account should (because I am too darned lazy) to really write a paper on it for those therapists who are themselves lacking insight, did not undertake personal therapy as part of their training, when they feel gratified by the products of their ‘work’ (BIG RED FLAG) which sadly may just be due to the extremely low self esteem of the client. Such patients might even claim they were….whatever….if it pleases the therapist, they nod and smile, giving guiding directions,positive non-verbal responses, according to what feels good to them. The client responds with positive scores as she does she want to be someone who is critical, as she knows that is very painful, from her own childhood, and, you know what, a little bit of love is soo seductive. In the therapy room, with the ‘bad therapist’ she was at least approved of, momentarily, in a way, even though we all know it really damaged her in the long run. Luckily for her, she worked with a therapist who had a brain and could analyse this, and respond to it in a way others could not.

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  8. What you said here Justin Sanity “Episodes of dissociative depersonalization – where the experience of “this is happening to me” (Self-ownership) fades out and is replaced by a sense of “this seems to be happening, not to me, but to ‘some other person’ ” – are not that uncommon, when a person is “in shock” or under extreme stress. It is sometimes expressed as an “out of body experience”. Example: “When the other driver’s car struck mine, I suddenly had the sensation that I was hovering outside of and above my car, as though watching an accident involving two other people”.
    This makes perfect sense to me as i’ve experienced several traumatic things that have happened to me in my life and both times i felt like it wasn’t really happening to me and i guess the shock had me in like a dream like state for a while where what had occurred just didn’t seem real to me at the time. It’s like the brains way of protecting us i believe.

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  9. From Angie’s Facebook page:

    “Attention some comments being posted from my profile but not by me nor in my writing style…#hacked ?
    Password changing hmmmm….”

    Now here’s the question. How does she know it wasn’t one of her alts did this? Just askin’….

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  10. I was a journalist in the Cleveland cases and the Satanic abuse scandals. Even then, long ago, it was clear two things were happening: some people, including policemen, drs, journalists, etc refused to accept that sexual assaults on children happened.. other than very rarely amongst the lower classes. I rang Newcastle Council to ask what the rates of sex abuse were there to compare with Middlesborough, to receive the confident reply, “We don’t get sex abuse of children in Newcastle!” !!,
    This denial was a bigger scandal than the Cleveland one, which was more complicated than it appeared, but it went unnoticed.
    The other side of the problem was that there were clearly some people who were unhinged and paranoid who believed impossible things, who were latching on to satanic abuse perhaps because of personal experiences of assaults in their own childhoods. And some professionals in Cleveland had realised sex abuse was common, but had over reacted and were seeing it where evidence was flaky.
    Because of legal constraints, it was impossible to report the Cleveland crisis fully and properly at the time.
    Keeping a balanced mind is not easy.

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  11. Well, kudos to the person who wouldn’t “feed the beast” by indulging the “alters” play-acting.

    I well understand, it wouldn’t have been easy to stick with such an approach if your peer culture is pro-indulgence and rewards indulgence.
    I once wrote an analysis of how and why, the concept of adolescent “peer pressure” being the most important causal factor in teen risk-taking behaviour, must have been postulated by doctors working in Health Promotion. Medical practitioners themselves are the professional community most severely victimized & controlled by peer pressure, I believe. Some are absolutely terrorized by right-think and right-practise evangelism within their community – blackballed, bullied and driven out of the profession sometimes. Or they just take their own life – very high suicide rate also.

    I’ve often wondered how many professionals who are true believers in the “childhood trauma = protective dissociation = spontaneous generation of Alters” model, have ever taken the time to critically examine that model. Because, it really doesn’t bear up to the most basic scrutiny.

    I’ve had a couple of opportunities to confront professionals espousing this model, online, about the fact that their model contradicts itself.
    If the child experiences a reflexive de-personalization dissociation in response to a crisis of trauma, they might be protected from conscious awareness that this traumatic experience is happening to them personally. But, they wouldn’t have a functional “self” during that time, so they couldn’t form an autobiographical memory of the event. (You must have a functional “me” to form “this happened to me” memories). There couldn’t be a hidden autobiographical memory of the event to be recalled later in life
    If, however, the child “splits off” an Alter personality to experience the traumatic event for them, that Alter must have an intact, functional “self”, to exist at all – so the Alter can’t exist in a state of de-personalization dissociation, and escape the suffering. The Alter will suffer, therefore the child suffers, and the alleged whole point of the splitting-off can’t be achieved that way.

    The reply I usually get is, the dissociation isn’t about escaping the immediate suffering from the traumatic event, its about escaping the suffering of a traumatic MEMORY of the event. Good thing these confrontation happen online, because I’d reach over and slap them in real life, for that! How can professionals live with themselves, after spewing such self-evident crapola? They really mean to say, that a reflexive “emergency response” system like dissociation ISN’T intended to protect the person from the immediate trauma? Having a traumatic memory of being tortured would be more damaging to the person than the actual experience of being tortured? And primal, reflexive responses have FORESIGHT? Get stuffed, I say to that.

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  12. Last summer she was coming to the end of her second year of Keshe plasma school and was saying she would soon be able to show her friends and family how to build plasma-electric generators. People put so much money into it and they are always told the breakthrough is just round the corner etc etc. Somehow this scam has been going on for ten years or more. Like Hopegirls QEG scam there is a religious spiritual element to it, if it dose’nt work it is your fault for not believing enough.

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  13. And let us not forget the influence on Higgs & Cleveland, of Hobbs & Wynne over in Leeds – where they had been sniffing out, or rather poking, prodding, and prying out evidence of CSA at an accelerating rate since 1982. In 1986, Hobbs & Wynne sounded the alarm to all UK physicians with their: “BUGGERY in childhood–a common syndrome of child abuse” (buggery! do you hear?) published in the Lancet:
    “Buggery in young children, including infants and toddlers, is a serious, common, and under-reported type of child abuse”.
    By 1989 they had accumulated 608 cases of suspected sexual abuse (Hobbs & Wynne, 1987a), of which 337 were confirmed or probable cases. 60% of 115 children in the 0–5 years of age group showed signs of anal penetration, they claimed, so raise the alarm again in 1989 with publication of “Sexual abuse of English boys and girls: the importance of anal examination” – “Medical examination of every child where symptoms, signs, or situation raise the possibility of abuse or neglect must include anal inspection, but instrumental or digital examination is not recommended”.
    Hmmm…might not take much for crusading zealots to conclude that being aged 0-5 BY ITSELF constitutes a “sign” raising the possibility of abuse, why not give them all an anal inspection just to be safe?


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  14. Well she’s a moron because she must have listened to a different Trump speech to me which confirmed his status as Mr Nasty and as for her frigging art slide show or whatever the hell it is, The Don is dispensing with all arts funding (right after he boots some 20 million people of their Affordable Health care) so artistic endeavors will be relegated to a non-status (unless you can manufacture gold drapes or can gilt a few tacky chairs for the White House).
    I can believe she gave her money to a ‘free energy’ scam because she’s clearly a dolt (but seems like quite a nice person nonetheless).
    Put her in touch with Neelu who can advise her how to send all her bills for payment to the Treasury.

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  15. I know 2 people who have set themselves up as psychotherapists and are doing quite well despite both being barking mad.

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  16. “…Please put the word out and give me a heads up if you see out of character comments etc”

    Yeah, starting with any statements that are true, because they’re clearly not from Angie!

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  17. As I get older I realise that some aspects of my father’s behaviour were probably due to the trauma of his job as a police photographer, attending crime scenes and autopsies on a regular basis. Again, I never observed this trauma resulting in multiple personality or repression. I think generally people who have seen horrific things find it very hard to stop thinking of them and will talk about them as soon a suitable opportunity arises.

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  18. Yes, I think a great many people have experienced horrors of one sort or another, and if the multiple personality concept were true, you’d think it would be practically epidemic, especially amongst survivors of war atrocities and disasters. Instead, it seems to be limited to a very small demographic: those treated by psychotherapists who believe in DID.


  19. Yes, I agree completely. I remember the “bad old days” when no one really believed that child sexual abuse was possible, or that it only happened to “those people” (poor, uneducated, non-white, unemployed, or any combination thereof). Back then, the fight was to get police and mental health professionals to believe it happened at all.

    A book called The Courage to Heal played an important role in bringing child sexual abuse into the public eye. It was intended as a “self-help” book for those who’d experienced child sexual abuse, but in bringing the topic out of the closet, it helped create a monster. It advocated things like “If you think you might have been abused, even if you don’t remember it, you probably were”. You can see how statements like this might encourage people to believe that sexual abuse had occurred, even when nothing of the kind had actually happened.

    As you say, some people went overboard, seeing child sexual abuse around every corner; and this helped to spur a counter-movement, such as the “False Memory Syndrome” proponents, who claimed that child sexual abuse was much less prevalent than suspected. Those who believed CSA was rampant were pitted against those who claimed it almost never happened; the FMS advocates were accused of being sexual abusers who were trying to avoid taking responsibility for their actions.

    It’s so hard to maintain a balanced view when it comes to CSA; and frankly, I believe that hoaxes like Hampstead are part of the problem, drawing attention away from genuine cases of CSA and making it hard for some people to believe that survivors are telling the truth.

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  20. Phew! We have Angie’s permission to watch ‘Casualty’. I was worried there for a while.


  21. And how does Angie manage to watch live BBC in Lanzarote, without breaking the law?

    “We expect that you have landed on this page because you are traveling abroad and you want to watch UK TV via the catchup services such as BBC iPlayer or perhaps 4oD and ITV Hub. The good news is that this is entirely possible, although we should point out that you are technically breaking the rights agreement reached between rights holder and broadcaster. Arguably, if you are usually a resident of the UK (and a TV Licence payer), you are at least morally in the right. See also: Do I need a TV Licence?

    BBC iPlayer lets you stream high-quality TV and radio shows, as well as movies. It is, however, limited to UK viewers, which means – in principle – you can only watch it from inside the UK. But there are ways to watch BBC iPlayer from outside of the UK, perhaps while on holiday or for those living abroad.”


    And if she’s not watching on the internet, she’s spending all that lovely GoFundMe money on a Sky subscription!

    Or have I missed something?

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  22. #Ellagate
    “Material obtained through hacking is not admissible in a UK court.”
    Good point!
    I’m surprised Detective Costa hasn’t picked up on this.
    Mind you, it’s a triumph whenever Costa manages to find her own arse.

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  23. Poor Arfur Earwinkle seems permanently confused.

    He’s about 50 which means his meek humble village parents came to Australia in the 1960s which coincides with the first influx of Lebanese migrants. Yet it was his grandfather (despite saying it was his father) who bought up 25 acres in West Pennant Hills & despite Arfur saying his father bought the deeds of houses instead of shoes which were somehow miraculously located next to each other on his 25 acres even though the suburb was established in the 1860s and thriving by the time the Earwinkles (traditional Lebanese name) arrived.

    The intelligence community don’t know what a gem they missed out on when Arfur turned down their offer to him to work as a spy concentrating on catching out rebellious Koalas at the local wildlife park. You can see how brilliant Arfur is as his front mowing lawns would have fooled even the cleverest KGB agent,

    Alternatively he’s a good example of why people should avoid crack cocaine and Ice.

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  24. You would think now that people know they can so easily buy solar panels and get all the free energy they want they would give up on this grifters & con-merchants like HopeGirl.


  25. Yes, especially now that solar panels are so cheap compared to what they used to be, and new battery technologies allow people to store solar energy for domestic use much more efficiently.


  26. I wonder if she has been ‘feeling the heat’ and is trying to set up a defence…ie ‘those comments werent mine, they were a hacker’ type of thing

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  27. yes you missed the fact she’s being lawful – this time – because she’s watching it in Ireland. Angie’s membership to the Jetset Club was revoked years ago.


  28. And remember Angie claims she paid 3K for this hacked material- child pornography. Her bigger crime is purchasing child abuse material.

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  29. Yes that is what she is doing.

    But too bad that won’t work.

    It must be getting very, very hot in Lanzarote at the moment Angela?

    Get your arse done the Friday afternoon boozing session and have a swim in the sea before your collar is felt.

    Don’t you think you’re taking the piss supping beer at 3 Euros a pint from money some poor saps in England have donated?

    Wrong on so many levels.

    Drink tap water if you’re thirsty, grrr…


  30. I thought he was in his 30s.

    Just a fat slob with bigger breasts than his lady friend Kristie.


  31. And pissing it up on a Friday afternoon supping 3 Euro pints on others hard earned money…


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