A delightful conversation with Kristie Sue

We’ll admit it: troofer-baiting can be fun. Over the months, some of our commenters have tried to converse with Hoaxtead pushers, and have shared the result with us, often to great comic effect. Because really, sometimes all one can do is laugh, right?

Last night El Coyote ventured into the wilds of YouTube under his alter ego, Snake Logan, and engaged in conversation with some very amusing people. Just for laughs, we thought we’d bring you the results.

The setting: one of Aaron Dover’s illegal Hoaxtead videos. We’ll share the link at the end of this post, in case you’d like to nip over there and report it to YouTube. In fact, please do. The more the merrier.

kristie-sue-convo-1-2016-12-19(A note about “Pray for the Children”: we think one might be forgiven for thinking that if she walks like a duck and talks like a duck, she could very well be Kristie Sue Costa. However, in this instance we concede we might have been mistaken. Ahem.)

kristie-sue-convo-2-2016-12-19kristie-sue-convo-3-2016-12-19Oh, there you are, Kris. Wondered where you’d got to. kristie-sue-convo-4-2016-12-19Rule Number One: Kristie Sue is NEVER WRONG. About anything. And no matter what you say, she’ll come back with “I already knew that”.


Dear TICK FUCK*NG TOCK, whoever you are: you owe me a new smartphone. Mine has coffee all over it now. kristie-sue-convo-6-2016-12-19Poor old Snake got a bit confused at this point: which witch was which? kristie-sue-convo-7-2016-12-19Oh, probably a tactical error there, Snake. If you have two children, you are perforce RD. It’s kind of a rule in Hoaxtead Land. That plus “if you disagree with us you are RD”.

Kristie Sue asks what she thinks will be the Killer Question, complete with a Reddit link and everything: kristie-sue-convo-8-2016-12-19For some reason, at this point Kristie Sue got downright surly. She already knew about BioMenace, o-kay???kristie-sue-convo-9-2016-12-19Snake forgot Rule Number One: Kristie Sue is NEVER WRONG. And she knows everything about everything long before anyone else does. Which is why she still has no idea who runs this blog, and persists in making a complete tit of herself whenever she tries to guess.

And so we bid Kristie Sue (and that other person was totally not Kristie Sue but sounds just like her according to our forensic linguist) a fond good-night, and say…

too-dumb-for-this-worldp.s. Here’s that YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=GFkBfGaqLv4&lc=z12ownq42ymotvi5r04cgjo4kx2zhbvx334
We’ve added a break before the word “watch”, as the thumbnail contains a picture of one of RD’s children.

78 thoughts on “A delightful conversation with Kristie Sue

  1. Hey Kristie Sue – I do believe the children. They stated categorically that they’d been coerced into lying to the police and they described in great detail how they’d been beaten and tortured by your mates Abe and Ella. And I’ve no reason to doubt them. And as you and your ever-dwindling group of allies are always keen to point out, kids can’t lie in that kind of detail, right?

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  2. It looks like Sabine McNeil continues in her efforts to ensure that the hoax of SRA is kept alive:

    From her blogs yesterday:


    ““Beside the hotel was a building where the performance (a Satanic Child Sacrifice murder ritual) took place. In that building there were people sitting down. At a certain moment the child was brought into that building by the criminals, was tortured, raped and brutally murdered in front of those people.

    “The audience was relatives and friends of (Dutch) Prince Johann Friso, the second son of (Dutch) Queen Beatrix. I was told that Johann Friso was quite insane and had an unhealthy interest in young children. He had a psychiatrist with him every day of his life. That psychiatrist’s name was Guus Pareau Dumont.

    “The criminals organized those killings in accordance with Queen Beatrix. She paid for the killings. The criminals asked Johann Friso to bring his relatives and friends with him. The whole building was filled with very important people from the Netherlands. There were ministers, high ranking officers and all kinds of people that the criminals could photograph (while sexually abusing naked child victims). They blackmailed those people to get advantages using the (child pornography) photographs.”

    Kevin Annett: Could you name some of the people who were present?

    “The people who I recognized were Prince Johann Friso and his psychiatrist Guus Pareau Dumont. I recognized Johann’s wife Mabel Wisse Smit. She was there with an old man, XXXX (a prominent American businessman) I believe. I recognized a Herr Donner, a former minister of the law department, the Vice Roy of the Netherlands. I recognized Ernst Hirsch Ballin, a very important former Minister of Justice. I recognized a Mr. Van den Emster. He was for years the head of judges in the Netherlands. I recognized Dick Berlijn. He’s a former head of the military department in the Netherlands. I recognized a very important journalist. I recognized Carla Eradus, the wife of Friso’s psychiatrist Guus Pareau Dumont. Carla is the President of the Court in Amsterdam, a judge. I recognized Mark Rutte. He’s at this moment the President of the Netherlands. I recognized Geert Wilders. He is at this moment the head of the political party PVV and head of the Dutch Parliament.

    “There were about fifty people every time I was taken there. I have been taken there three times. I have seen every time that they killed a child. I have seen two boys killed and one girl killed. I presume they were children from the Netherlands. I presume they came from detention centers and were recruited in the way I have told.”

    Kevin Annett: You said that officials at the detention center thought that the children had been eaten?

    “I asked a journalist of the paper De Telegraff in 2005 or 2006 to look that up for me. I asked them to publish in the newspaper what was happening. The journalist told me he had checked my story with all the youth detention centers in the Netherlands and had spoken to people who had indeed given those files to the criminals. They thought that the children they put on the train were going to be solicited to work in the court of Queen Beatrix. Some of those detention center people told the journalist that they thought that Queen Beatrix was eating those children up because they were putting them on the train to Zwolle. They never saw those children again or ever heard about them anymore.”

    Kevin Annett: Do you know what happened to the remains of the children who died, where they were buried, or what they did with them?

    “Yes, unfortunately I know. Yes. They were first thrown in a container behind the building where they were murdered. It was a cooling container. After certain performances the container was brought to Belgium where they had a piece of land. They put the children in a hole.””

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    • Everything that Annett & his buddies says, is a lie. We all know this.
      It’s possible that they may have picked up some ideas from another infamous liar – Marcel Vervloesem – another self-professed “whistleblower” who turned out to be a [convicted] pedophile himself.

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    • It’s funny, I distinctly recall Sabine saying in one of her interminable interviews that she had never thought about SRA before meeting Ella and Abe, at which point the scales dropped from her eyes and she realised it was everywhere, and started preaching the gospel. And now she’s quoting that fraud Annett, who (probably to spite his former bestie Alfred Labrador Webfoot) has now renounced SRA and gone on to other cons. I wish these people would make up their minds (alleged).


  3. I don’t want to keep posting exposes, here, but idjits keep lying about historical events that I’ve researched and it drives me batty sometimes.

    There is an old “documentary” that you can find on youtube, titled “Boys For Sale”. I’m not certain if it originally had a title, I believe it was a special edition of a local television program. But it has that title for a very bad reason.

    “In 1969 Parker Rossman (writing as Jonathan Drake) with Dennis Drew had published “Boys for Sale: A Sociological Study of Boy Prostitution” (New York,1969)” – this book should have been subtitled: “a celebration of Boy Prostitution”, because that’s what it is.

    “…George Parker Rossman had been indicted with Dr Morris Fraser for his involvement in the Long Island network of [boy sex] abusers uncovered in 1971”.

    These quotes, and more you will come across here, are taken from this amazing blog page:

    “Playland” by Robin Lloyd, originally “For Money or Love”, was a similarly lurid “expose” of boy prostitution and pornography in America and the UK.

    “Two of the people thanked by Playland’s Robin Lloyd are members of Haywood’s Working Party with [convicted pedophile and PIE member Charles Napier]…”

    Both “Boys for Sale” and “For Money or Love” have this unfortunate undercurrent, they keep repeating the idea that these boy prostitutes & pornography “models” are just “looking for a man who will LOVE them”. Looking for men who love boys. Looking for boy-lovers, i.e. pederasts. I don’t know how to make that any more clear.

    If you ever watch “Boys For Sale”, listen closely to what each man is saying – you will find a similar refrain. Tom Philpott, one of the primary speakers in Boys For Sale, was a history professor. Boy prostitution was certainly not his field of expertise. But he was very passionate about “helping these boys get off the streets”, and sometimes by taking them into his own home. Because he LOVED them. Philpott was a very troubled man who eventually committed suicide. For the sake of Philpott’s son, who is now an adult, and his other relatives, I won’t say any more about that.

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    • I know the Haywood family and I met him several times. The Satanic mob are working on turning Hayward into a member of the pedo cult and it’s very sad for his family members. He was a man of great sympathy and dedication to helping youngsters which brought him into contact with numerous youths who were ‘rentboys’. He admittedly had fairly controversial views but they were formed by numerous psychiatrists and ‘experts’ of the day and were possibly ill-advised. He meant well.


      • @GOS – thank you! I don’t know those people and can’t comment. I’ll accept your word.

        Regrettably, there is no doubt about Parker Rossman’s motivations. And I have no doubts, that the title: “Boys for Sale” was originally tacked onto this “documentary” to attract Rossman’s readership. Which is not good.

        My attempts to understand the men who exploited me as a teenager, and the relationship such persons had with my local gay community, led me to read both Rossman’s and Lloyd’s books in my late teens. The faux concept of boys “looking for men who would love them” was not lost on me even then. And I have since encountered “the real thing” many times, throughout my lifetime. I have researched and tracked some pederasts on behalf of other victimized men. The exaggerated way that Philpott expresses his “concern” for the boys in that documentary is very familiar to me. And not in a good way, either.

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        • I would say Hayward was, for all his contacts and work, a fairly naive man. A close family member shared a flat with me for 3 years and told me what was common knowledge- Hayward was impotent and celibate and had no sexual contact at all. But he was seemingly gay and took an interest in fairly rough legally aged lads. Significantly seeing he worked his entire life with mainly boys, there has never been a single accusation about him. He and his wife who adored him adopted 2 brothers and one was sadly murdered on holiday in Morocco. However the satanic mob are weaving him into claims of the Royal family, Prince Charles etc as being bay eating pedos etc. Reading that link, the info rings very true but it was an era were things were not black and white as you would know and I think his defense of some blokes was more the fact he was working class and mixing with the upper classes and eventually Royalty which meant he sort of deferred to those he probably thought had greater social standing. Not unusual for the day in all sections of society.

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          • Yes, I understand.
            There are no “on the record” accusations against Philpott, either, nor any criminal charges that I’m aware of. Therefore, if he had any improper “feelings” for these boy hookers we must assume he was not guilty of acting on them. There was a very strange episode, however, while Philpott was still very actively pursuing such matters. He received a gunshot, a “flesh wound” as they say,
            His version of events – some boy trafficking gangsters shot him because he was “interfering”. The police investigator’s version – no evidence for the gansters, all evidence indicates a self-inflicted injury from his own gun. But there is a third version. In the third version, a boy that Philpott “brought into his home” from the streets, told him “no!” with his own gun.

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  4. Well done Snake Login etc but you could achieve the same effect by banging your head against a brick wall but this is probably less painful (physically- not mentally).

    This mob seem totally vacuous as to how children really work ( God help their own kids).
    In fact children lie all the time and very easily but not for nefarious reasons but because they have a different reality to adults. They do not perceive lies as we do and this is a perfectly normal part of childhood and one of the wonders of the sheer innocence of children.

    Child psychologists are discovering new aspects of childhood and teen behaviour all the time. It’s only recently they discovered children have very little peripheral vision- in other words the exhortation to “look left & right” when crossing the road is meant as it is for kids as they do not see things, as adults do out of the corners of their eyes.

    Similar studies with teens shows a fearless capacity that diminishes as they become adults and explains a lot of teen ‘reckless’ behaviour, in fact it’s probably an inbuilt part of the survival of the species.

    So faced with adults who threaten them children will willingly say what those adults want to hear to avoid pain. I came from a family that never ever physically disciplined I and my siblings, rather privileges were withdrawn and I know those siblings act likewise with their own families. I cannot imagine harming a child even if it’s hitting them with a spoon. What a sick mind a man must have to do this and the mother can’t be much better to allow it. Mothers usually fight like tigers to protect their young from harm.

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    • Oh yes, the conversation itself was basically a “head, meet wall” event. I only put it up because it amused me. 🙂

      I agree about the understanding of child psychology these types display. For example, the Hoaxtead mobsters make much of the fact that in the retraction video, the policeman says to the boy, “Are you sure? You won’t get in trouble if you tell the truth now”.

      As a parent, I used this tactic countless times, for one simple reason: at a certain age, children know they are lying, and they know it’s wrong, but they feel trapped into continuing with the lie, as they believe (rightly, most of the time) that they have now compounded whatever other wrong they’ve done by lying about it.

      They will continue in the lie till doomsday, unless they can find an “out”—a way to get out of the lie gracefully and with minimal damage. Telling a child that it’s all right to stop the lie now, and that they won’t get into further trouble for it, is a simple and effective way of helping the child step away from their lie without losing face.

      Any decent parent understands some version of this. It doesn’t surprise me that Kristie Sue hasn’t a clue.

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      • “They will continue in the lie till doomsday, unless they can find an “out”…”

        I hate to admit it, but I remember being the child in scenarios like this 🙂


      • I shouldn’t have watched those videos but I did.

        To me the girl seems enormously relieved to be able to tell the truth and explain it was all fibs and Abe made them do it. Same with the boy and both appear far more relaxed to have been able to get rid of a terrible weight upon them : the need to lie because of threats from Christie.

        Also any police officer or psychologist who deals with child abuse understands how children can behave when they hide a terrible secret ( many genuine victims of abuse or trauma can feel guilty as it’s quite normal to think you are at fault for getting yourself into a position where harm could happened to you). They can be furtive, beat about the bush, umm and ahh as they try to avoid saying what has happened to them.

        But when telling these bizarre tales both children are almost over-excited as they reel out the fabrications- they excitedly tell what is clearly a script drummed into them by a cruel abuser. The videos stand out in the way- normal for kids – as each tries to almost outdo the other by relating the script.

        Most sane people would be relieved to hear such terrible things did not happen to these kids. The ferocity of the hoaxer mob to the retractions is very telling of the state of their own minds and a sickness within. The eagerness in which they have seized upon the pizza rubbish to weave into hoaxtead just confirms a sick obsession with pedophilia, an obsession where real children are merely a sideline in their Cult like behaviour.


    • So now Trump is a cannibal?. What is it with this mob- they are fixated on people eating other people. So weird. They probably think Hannibal Lecter was a real person. I wonder how much of their lunatic thoughts are set off by watching too many movies.

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      • I think he is actually saying Hillary Clinton is a cannibal.
        Though I haven’t met either of the candidates, I doubt either Mrs Clinton of Mr Trump has a taste for human flesh.

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        • Yes now I see I got it back to front which seemed odd as these nutters follow a pattern ie-Trump voters because he would ‘drain the swamp’ which they think is a seething pit of baby eating pedos.

          I wish one would explain why the baby eating satanists need to eat kiddies to get to rule the world. I would have thought just having more money than everyone else and supporting politicians who will do your bidding was enough. As The Don eventually fails to deliver on promises such as the impossible task of re-building manufacturing int eh US, I wonder if they accuse him of being a satanist pedo?. Especially after he said his own daughter was a “great piece of ar……”.


      • Maybe 1 reason for ‘turnoff tv’ mantra ~ msm evil. So victims don’t recognise where the myths originate from ~ eg Marvel, Miles Johnston, Belinda McKenzie, go back to Lloyd Pye, (funny name).


      • I’m sure one of them has been quoted as being partial to a bit of ‘Ass’?


      • In Kane Slater’s case, I think the reason is clear: it’s in the title of his Facebook page, “Cannabis Cures Cancers”. (And no, I’m not saying he has cancer.)


    • I think we can all do just fine without any help from Kane Slater. He must be annoyed that he can’t get people to pay him attention.

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  6. Trying to reason with these people is often impossible so baiting them and poking fun at them definitely can offer some entertainment. I must admit to poking fun at them myself and i do enjoy reading other peoples comments of a similar nature. Especially because people find different angles to jab them from. Though they make such fools of themselves that everything else is just an added bonus.
    I have been blocked by Aaron Dover but that was not when I was giving them a ribbing, but instead trying to reason with them and provide evidence of the truth. According to Aaron, that is called trolling.

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  7. Trying to talk to the fruit loops is like talking to a brick wall. They have the story that they believe in and no matter what evidence you put before them they refuse to accept it.

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