For the past couple of days we’ve been scouring Abe and Ella’s latest video release—the 3 hours recorded by Abe’s brother-in-law Jean-Clement Yaohirou on 4 September, 2014.
It’s a rough ride for anyone who cares about children, as Abe is clearly pushing RD’s kids to provide the correct, pre-scripted answers to his questions, and the children stumble over themselves to comply. At one point, Abe can be heard prompting them to yell, “Kill! Kill! Kill the babies!”…exactly as noted by Mrs Justice Pauffley in this section of her fact-finding judgement of 19 March, 2015:
At about 2 hours and 6 minutes, it sounds as though Abe, Jean-Clement, and the children are in the front hallway of Jean-Clement’s house. One of our team members kindly put together a clip of the interchange that takes place:
It seems that one of the children pointed to a picture, wondering who’s in it.
Abe says, “That’s Jean-Clement’s daughter, that’s my niece…she likes to touch as well“.
Jean-Clement responds, “No, no, no, no, no, she doesn’t”.
In a more serious voice, Abe says, “She came to my house in Marrakech (“to see me”? hard to make out)”.
Jean-Clement, more forcefully: “Noooo”.
Abe (sarcastically): “Oh, I’m a liar?”
Jean-Clement: “Well, how come you never say that?”
Abe: “Well, what am I going to say?”
There’s a great deal of cross-chatter happening here, and the sound quality is bad for a few seconds, obscuring the conversation.
Then we hear Abe justifying his extraordinary statement about Jean-Clement’s daughter: “She used to do it, she used to touch, she used to kill, she used to touch, she used to kill. She used to. I believe that she’s growing out of it slowly”. Then, as if this explains everything, he says, “This is what they do, Jean-Clement. This is what they’re taught to do”.
What does Abe mean by all this?
Is he seriously claiming that he has first-hand knowledge that his own niece is a member of his imaginary cult?
The fact that he seems to think that Jean-Clement’s daughter was involved in ‘touching’ (we assume he means sexual touching) and ‘killing’ speaks to a much broader issue: Abe is clearly expressing his obsession with children doing sexualised, violent things to one another. If he was fantasising about his niece doing these things at his home in Marrakech, then this grotesque sexual obsession must predate his relationship with Ella.
Hardly surprising, then, that as soon as he got his clutches on RD’s children, he began spinning elaborate fantasies about them, too.
We’re continuing to listen to this material, so stay tuned….