Did Abe know Bill Maloney before Hoaxtead?

One of our commenters, who wishes to remain nameless here, raised this issue yesterday: did Abraham already know Bill Maloney, owner of Pie’n’Mash Films, before the advent of the Hampstead hoax?

We’d been discussing why Abrella started the hoax in the first place, and some commenters noted that the entire point of the exercise seemed to have been to gain maximum exposure in the alternative media. In this context, having an ‘in’ with Maloney, with his wide sphere of influence in the conspiranoid community, could have been a godsend.

From what I can make out, after September when the children got taken into care, Abraham left the UK.

He says (in the Beyond Belief interview if I recall) that he returned from Morocco to an exhausted Ella, who had been dealing with the case for 5 months (was he gone all this time? This would make his return around January/February). So he may in fact have left in a hurry after the children were taken into care. Why?

We know little about Abe’s movements around this time, but if he did leave it might indicate that he ran in September, only to return when he assessed the situation to be safe, as no indication of impending arrest had been made to Ella before the fact-finding hearing.

Then, in another interview, Abe says he went to the Russian Embassy with Belinda because Ella was in Morocco. This is where he complains about Belinda trying to access a fund for charity-scamming purposes.

So for love birds-in-crisis it seems strange, to say the least, that they would be apart when normally partners would stick around to support each other.

Then, before the fact-finding hearing on 12th Feb they are together again, only for Ella to flee on her own to until Abraham felt it was ‘too hot’ for him. In trying to find where Abraham says he went to the Russian embassy because Ella was in Morocco, I found something even more interesting.

Abraham has always tried to convince everyone that Maloney should have known the ‘veracity of the children’s claims’ because Ella emailed Maloney about the children’s assertions that the alleged perpetrators had tattoos. To Abrella’s minds this should have been accepted as ‘proof’, because Maloney knew of the alleged tattoos on Leon Brittan. Of course, even if both were true this would be nonsense. One claim does not prove the other. That Abraham thinks this only highlights his lack of intelligence.

I always thought that Abraham had watched a video in which Maloney talks about the Leon Brittan tattoos, and that was how he had heard of these assertions.

But now it sounds to me as Abe is saying that he had some kind of previous connection with Maloney, long before this case, as he says that Maloney told him ‘out of his mouth’ (i.e., personally) about Brittan’s tattoos.

See what you think here (start at 1:06:00):

Abe: Not only do we know—

Guidance 2222: Oh, we got proof…always comes in handy, innit?

Abe: We got proof, and we got proof out of Bill Maloney’s mouth! He’s the one who told me that he knows about the tattoos…

Guidance: Yeah…

Abe: That’s how I know that he knows about Leon Brittan’s tattoos. If you know about Leon Brittan’s tattoos, and you get an email about two little children who say that they’ve been raped, and sodomised, and babies are being killed by people with tattoos, why don’t you say something, you piece of sh*t? We’ve never shared this information with no one, we never shared it wiv no one! so we’re sending it to you for the first time, so when we’re sending it you it’s going in your mind, your mind’s going what? you’re joking! Bill Maloney and Brian Gerrish knew that the children [unclear]…

Guidance: Yeah, it’s shocking, innit? It’s shocking! When you find out…

Clearly, Abe is angry that Maloney and Gerrish, two ‘big names’ in the conspiranoid community, failed to deliver on the publicity that Abrella thought they deserved. That would have been especially galling for Abe, if he’d been counting on the fact that Maloney was familiar with Brittan’s tattoos, and so would immediately understand the darker meaning of the alleged tattoos on the alleged cult members.

After all, what’s the point of having friends in high places, if they won’t play along with your hoax when you need them to?